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Options for an Evil Archivist
« on: July 06, 2012, 06:47:10 PM »
I'm trying to build an evil archivist for an upcoming game.

The GM is pretty flexible so pretty much anything is open as long as he's consulted first.  Characters are 32 point-buy with standard WBL.


At the moment I have Cloistered Cleric 1/Archivist 5/Dweomerkeeper 10/Archivist 4.
The plan is pretty much out of the handbook buffbot build taking Practiced Spellcaster, Academic Priest, Southern Magician (to make buffs harder to dispel, I guess), Persist, DMM Persist, Twin, DMM Twin, Quicken.  Since my deity is Wee Jas, Domains are Magic, Undeath, and Knowledge.

I don't necessarily find much wrong with the above, it just feels sub-par. 
I'm noticing that nearly all of the best cleric dips (cough* Sacred Exorcist *cough) and prestige classes require a good alignment, or at the very least a non-evil alignment.  And pretty much the one caveat is we have to be evil.

I don't want to do Malconvoker because I've done a summoning mage in the past and I'd rather not do a summoning focus again if I can help it.  Divine adapted Anima Mage is a possibility I guess but it does involve learning Binder, which apparently is really frackin' hard.


Originally I wanted to play a gish with archivist entry, going into Ordained Champion and stacking that class with Holy Warrior and Knowledge Devotion.  But I ran into the same problem:  after Ordained Champion it's back to archivist because most of the best gish prestige classes (First of Raziel, Knight of the Raven) require good alignment.

What should I do?
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Re: Options for an Evil Archivist
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2012, 01:40:40 PM »
Originally I wanted to play a gish with archivist entry, going into Ordained Champion and stacking that class with Holy Warrior and Knowledge Devotion.  But I ran into the same problem:  after Ordained Champion it's back to archivist because most of the best gish prestige classes (First of Raziel, Knight of the Raven) require good alignment.
Play this.  See if you can get rid of the alignment restriction for Sacred Exorcist.  If not, make the most you can out of a dip that gets you Turn/Rebuke Undead.  You're losing a caster level, but with Cloistered Cleric that can lead to some good options -- 3 domains/devotions. 

Then, get persistent Divine Power, so you don't care about your BAB.  I'd also add the Travel Devotion, that way you can really take advantage of Ordained Champions channel spell as well as the Archivist's lore ability (both are move actions, iirc).  You can channel debilitating spells into your foes, or buffing/healing ones into yourself or your allies.

You're down a couple of caster levels, but really, you'll be so badass it won't really matter unless you're in a very high optimization game. 


P.S.:  the same thing could be done with a Divine Anima Mage, but this version has pluses and minuses.  Really, the high level Archivist lore powers are pretty ridiculous.

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Re: Options for an Evil Archivist
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2012, 01:49:59 AM »
I would take the domains planning=>extend spell, knowledge=>trade it for knowledge devotion and death=>trade it for death devotion. So you get the most out of the 1 level cleric dip