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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #280 on: August 05, 2012, 10:34:38 AM »
The build might go Monk1/ Swash19 and get 16d6 just from swashbuckler, then Assassin's Stance for another 2d6.  Four base attacks, plus one for flurry, plus two for STS, which is seven attacks, doubled for TWF, doubled again for crescent knives.  28 x 18d6 = 504d6, which averages 1764 damage.

Let's put that into prospective shall we? Two +1 Collision Light Maces deals 1d6+6 at 28 attacks deals around 266 damage. A Balor has 290 HP meaning if DR is bypassed or dealt with, such as factoring Strength, it's almost enough to one round KO one of the toughest none-epic/dragon monsters in D&D.

So is it the circumstantial 17d6 SA that's over powered, or is it the sheer number of attacks that turns even a 16 Str build into an insane power house?

Also over 6,000 was the first post. I believe I hit 9,001+ after that. Also you can pretty much just buy 17d6 SA and 28 attacks using crescent knives is a little low if you really got into things, like pick up some Martial Adapt levels and Raging Mongoose adds another 8 all by it's self. ...Now where were those zippers again?

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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #281 on: August 05, 2012, 11:05:58 AM »
Clearly my op-fu is inferior, and I made the mistake of thinking about all those dice without actually realizing until the end that they wouldn't really do much.    :blush

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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #282 on: August 05, 2012, 01:54:40 PM »
What kind of abilities are special attacks or special qualities for the purpose of IC regarding the Antropomorphic Animal?
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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #283 on: August 05, 2012, 08:33:54 PM »
What kind of abilities are special attacks or special qualities for the purpose of IC regarding the Antropomorphic Animal?

Well, I don't know what the point of IC would be for Anthro Animal, since it has no LA to reduce.  But in general all of its abilities are either SA or SQ, you only keep stats, natural weapons, and movement modes.
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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #284 on: August 06, 2012, 04:05:20 AM »
What kind of abilities are special attacks or special qualities for the purpose of IC regarding the Antropomorphic Animal?

Well, I don't know what the point of IC would be for Anthro Animal, since it has no LA to reduce.  But in general all of its abilities are either SA or SQ, you only keep stats, natural weapons, and movement modes.

Since I apply IC after taking levels in AA and templates(which get me LA) I need to take abilities that are neither SA nor SQ so the level does not go to waste.
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« Reply #285 on: August 06, 2012, 07:52:04 AM »
Yeah... I hear you.  But SA and SQ are not well-defined when it comes to class abilities.  Still, use what I said above for guidelines.
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« Reply #286 on: August 06, 2012, 08:02:52 AM »
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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #287 on: August 08, 2012, 11:58:59 PM »
Fractional BAB and/or saves?  Do +2's from classes with the same good save stack, or no?

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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #288 on: August 09, 2012, 12:05:12 AM »
Do +2's from classes with the same good save stack, or no?

Why would they not? I am honestly confused.

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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #289 on: August 09, 2012, 12:06:55 AM »
Do +2's from classes with the same good save stack, or no?

Why would they not? I am honestly confused.
If you're using fractional saves, they wouldn't.
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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #290 on: August 09, 2012, 12:15:56 AM »
Do +2's from classes with the same good save stack, or no?

Why would they not? I am honestly confused.
If you're using fractional saves, they wouldn't.
Actually, per the official fractional save rules, they do. In my games, they don't. I can tell you which one is more balanced... :D
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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #291 on: August 09, 2012, 12:19:33 AM »
Where are the official fractional save rules printed, anyways? I was looking all over the UA section of the SRD for them, but couldn't find them.

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« Reply #292 on: August 09, 2012, 12:30:25 AM »
Where are the official fractional save rules printed, anyways? I was looking all over the UA section of the SRD for them, but couldn't find them.
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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #293 on: August 09, 2012, 12:32:16 AM »
Where are the official fractional save rules printed, anyways? I was looking all over the UA section of the SRD for them, but couldn't find them.
They're in the actual book, I dunno about the SRD.

And you're right, phaedrus, they do stack for whatever reason. That kind of defeats the purpose, but whatever.
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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #294 on: August 09, 2012, 07:14:59 AM »
The non +2 thing for fractional saves is a variant rule for a variant rule.  Lol.

Fractional BAB & saves, +2s stack.
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Re: OOC Discussion
« Reply #295 on: August 13, 2012, 11:06:24 AM »
Is this ever going to get off the ground?

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« Reply #296 on: August 13, 2012, 11:08:10 AM »
Is this ever going to get off the ground?

Lol.  Yes, I promise!
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« Reply #297 on: August 13, 2012, 11:12:34 AM »
Is this ever going to get off the ground?

Lol.  Yes, I promise!

Well when are you going to finish the Affliations so we can get started?   :P

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« Reply #298 on: August 13, 2012, 11:14:12 AM »
Is this ever going to get off the ground?

Lol.  Yes, I promise!

Well when are you going to finish the Affliations so we can get started?   :P

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« Reply #299 on: August 13, 2012, 11:19:36 AM »
Hey everyone, I have a question.  Who wants to join an affiliation which isn't finished yet?  I figure I need to do the Chorrun Char and the Sisterhood (and I swear I'll finish the Calaspers), but does anyone want to join the Fallen, Forsaken, or Order of the Dawn?  If not, I'll finish the others first and we'll start, and I can do those later as necessary.
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