[Discussion] The Nameless discussion thread

[VennDygrem]

No, I still haven't chosen my second circle yet either. There are a couple very nice options. Fleeting image has some very nice illusion a nd enchantment effects, and while I'm a bit soured on the shadow circle, it has some nice rebuffs and even some in-combat heals. Also, I actually like Eternal Moment; in the same round, I can increase your initiative count and decrease several enemies', and there are some nice rebuffs and decent buffs and effects that take enemies out of the fight temporarily. Used on the right enemy/ies, that's like a pretty great time stop that the whole party gets the benefit of.

Decisions, decisions...

[Nanshork]

Go with the formulae. It means you win on action economy since you can toss out twice as many formulae in the same time frame, even if some of those formulae are lower level and a bit weaker.

You tell me to go for it, and then you go and ruin it for everybody by telling DonQuixote to get rid of the option and he agrees with you.  What's up with that?   

Maybe I'm secretly out to get you?
Wait, not so secret any more. Damn. Do-over? 

I don't allow do-overs.   

[Jackinthegreen]

Go with the formulae. It means you win on action economy since you can toss out twice as many formulae in the same time frame, even if some of those formulae are lower level and a bit weaker.

You tell me to go for it, and then you go and ruin it for everybody by telling DonQuixote to get rid of the option and he agrees with you.  What's up with that?   

Maybe I'm secretly out to get you?
Wait, not so secret any more. Damn. Do-over? 

I don't allow do-overs.   

Careful about those do-unders too.

[VennDygrem]

Hey, SirP, is there any chance of subbing out Tiger Claw discipline for Oslecamo's Breath of Fire discipline? Seems pretty appropriate for a Dragonheart Adept.

Maybe... too appropriate.

[sirpercival]

Hey, SirP, is there any chance of subbing out Tiger Claw discipline for Oslecamo's Breath of Fire discipline? Seems pretty appropriate for a Dragonheart Adept.

Maybe... too appropriate.

Sure, go for it.

[Nanshork]

Hmm, I can't decide if I want a Medium Earth Elemental whos natural attacks are treated as adamantine, cold iron, and silver for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction or regeneration, or if I want a Medium Magma Paraelemental with (most likely) the ability to Harden at will.

[VennDygrem]

Pretty close to done. I settled on Perfect Freeze and Eternal Moment for circles, and picked my Formulae and maneuvers. I've just got to copy down my skills and that's mostly it. However, I'm now considering dropping the idea of taking a level in another monster class. It might still be worth it, but I'm spending two feats to do it and it might not boost my combat capabilities enough to make it worthwhile. Growing to a larger size means losing the benefits of small size, and gaining slightly better damage and one or two other minor benefits from whatever other class I choose.

Is it worth spending two feats and delaying my main class's progression?

[Nanshork]

I think you're fine with just Choker unless that one level dip can get you Large size somehow.

[Nanshork]

Alright, I'm going Earth and I'm going to have Auras as well just so everybody is up to date.

Edit: Nevermind, Crushing Stone and Screeching Roc auras aren't worth it to me.

[VennDygrem]

Well, I can if I go with half-ogre. The other option is gaining medium size and some other ability, like taking a level in displacer beast and getting a scaling, permanent displacement effect (though much less than full levels in displacer beast). They're enticing options, but there are downsides too.

[Nanshork]

All of my spellshaping formulae (including future progression) is done.  I wish I had more options for +Cha LA 0 races though...

[Jackinthegreen]

You mean like Magic-blooded?  It has been approved for appropriate races.

[littha]

All of my spellshaping formulae (including future progression) is done.  I wish I had more options for +Cha LA 0 races though...

You couldn't find any to your liking with all the homebrew out there?

[Nanshork]

Magic Blooded isn't a race, it's a template.   

@Littha: I haven't looked through everybody's homebrew, but out of what I've seen I haven't found anything to my liking.

[phaedrusxy]

Magic Blooded isn't a race, it's a template.   

@Littha: I haven't looked through everybody's homebrew, but out of what I've seen I haven't found anything to my liking.

That's one of the reasons I like the Okilei so much. I also love the fluff, and the fact that they're psionic.

Off the top of my head, star elves and spellscales both get +2 to cha, but I think they also both get -2 to Con. I guess you could slap dragonborn on them to counteract that, though. Then throw on magic-blooded, though I think due to the order of operations there, you'd lose everything but the ability score adjustments from magic-blooded.

[Nanshork]

Oh there's a few homebrews out there with +2 to Cha, there is even an elemental Spellshaping one.  I'm just not finding any that I'm in love with the fluff of.   

[phaedrusxy]

What are you looking for? Something to go with the elemental theme?

[Nanshork]

I don't know what I'm looking for.  Something overpowered and awesome probably.  I had forgotten about Magic Blooded though.  I like elemental themed, I'm just not super big on the elemental Spellshaping race.  It isn't bad, it just doesn't excite me.

In other news, I keep flip-flopping on the Shaman of the Elements ACF. 

I lose: Turn air elements and rebuke earth elementals.  (Meh)
Spend turn/rebuke attempts to do the same thing as the Heighten Formula feat that I already took and they don't stack (worthless)
At 8th level, spend turn/rebuke attempts to cast Earth descriptor spells (mostly a bunch of walls and meh attack spells)
At 12th level, spend attempts to summon Large (eventually Huge) Earth elementals (awesome)
At 16th level, spend attempts to target extra creatures with formulae

Gain:
   Crushing Stone Aura: When this aura goes into effect, you and your allies become as tough as stone, granting you a +4 bonus on Balance checks and checks to resist bull rush attempts.  In addition, you and all allies within your aura gain DR 1/-.  This damage reduction increases by 1 for every five shaper levels you have, to a maximum of DR 5/- at 20th level.

Screeching Roc Aura: While this aura is active, you and your allies gain a +5 bonus on Listen checks and are immune to magical deafening effects.  In addition, any creature that misses you or one of your allies within your aura with a melee attack takes 2 points of sonic damage.  This damage increases by 2 for every five shaper levels you have, to a maximum of 10 points of sonic damage at 20th level.

At 8th level, healing like a Dragon Shaman (meh)


Opinions?

[phaedrusxy]

Did you look through the Planetouched Handbook? The D'hin'ni looks pretty interesting. I'm not sure if this is the exact stats that they were given in Dragon, but it looks close. A lesser magic-blooded one should be pretty nice.

[Nanshork]

Apparently I'm going to have to min-max with my race to get what I want.  I should have expected this.   

sirpercival: are both Lesser Aasimar and the first level of the Aasimar racial class both available as options?  I'm trying to narrow things down here.