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[dman11235]

Raineh, you're in the UK, right?  I must confess I know nearly nothing about the independence thing.  About the only thing I know that's substantial is that the oil companies didn't want it to happen because it would change things and change is scary.

bhu, wtf is going on in that?  I read the story and cannot understand what happened.  I mean, it sounds like everyone (except that girl) is horrible, and maybe the boy needs to be special needs?  And the adults need jail.  Lots and lots of jail.  You don't need to witness it.  You just need evidence.  And using someone as bait?  If it happens it's entrapment!  So like I said.  Lots and lots of jail.

[altpersona]

afaik 'entrapment' is a thing of the past.

[Raineh Daze]

Raineh, you're in the UK, right?  I must confess I know nearly nothing about the independence thing.  About the only thing I know that's substantial is that the oil companies didn't want it to happen because it would change things and change is scary.

Or the banks, shops, pension funds, and in general most business or people with anything to lose at all. It's not really surprising that the most support for it came from the poorest regions of the country and 16 and 17 year olds (also men more than women). The oil companies had even more reason to not want it after Sillars there said the most threatening thing he could (despite not having any power at all), which was threatening to nationalise BP for disagreeing. And to arrange boycotts of shops that had spoken up.

Anyway, the issue with that... the democratic referendum returned a no vote, 55% to 45%. Sillars there is saying that this doesn't matter, and if Scotland gets an SNP majority government in 2016 it should just declare independence and become a republic. Who cares that more than half the country voted against it?

[dman11235]

afaik 'entrapment' is a thing of the past.

Whatever the appropriate word is then.  You have someone telling someone to agree to do something and then busting them when they do the thing that you told them to do.  It doesn't make what he did anything better than what it was (rape) but it means that you can't prosecute it (as well) because she said yes.  Now, it's just rape from the the fact that she's special needs and allegedly told him to stop.  AND you can bring charges against the adults who told her to do it because they are complicit in the offense.  So basically the adults are the biggest offenders here, and judging by his past the boy needs to be in special needs of some sort.

[altpersona]

yes, everyone but the girl is fucked up.


i was just pointing out that the cops are basically allowed to entrap now. ever watch the show Bait Car?

[dman11235]

Bait Car is not entrapment.  Bait Car it leaving a car unlocked with cameras and tracking information in it, catching people who steal it.  Entrapment is when a police officer (or someone) tells you to commit a crime, and then gets you in trouble for it.  The classic example is the prostitution thing, where an officer goes up to a prospective customer and says something like "if you give me money I'll have sex with you".  THAT is entrapment.  Bait car doesn't tell people to take the car and then arrest them when they do.

[phaedrusxy]

Bait Car is not entrapment.  Bait Car it leaving a car unlocked with cameras and tracking information in it, catching people who steal it.  Entrapment is when a police officer (or someone) tells you to commit a crime, and then gets you in trouble for it.  The classic example is the prostitution thing, where an officer goes up to a prospective customer and says something like "if you give me money I'll have sex with you".  THAT is entrapment.  Bait car doesn't tell people to take the car and then arrest them when they do.

They do that kind of crap all the time. Example: federal agents pretending to be children online to lure potential pedophiles to mee tthem somewhere on the pretense of having sex with them. They arrest whoever shows up, even though they technically committed no crime (the officer is of course not underage).

There was even a reality TV show dedicated to this.

[Raineh Daze]

Bait Car is not entrapment.  Bait Car it leaving a car unlocked with cameras and tracking information in it, catching people who steal it.  Entrapment is when a police officer (or someone) tells you to commit a crime, and then gets you in trouble for it.  The classic example is the prostitution thing, where an officer goes up to a prospective customer and says something like "if you give me money I'll have sex with you".  THAT is entrapment.  Bait car doesn't tell people to take the car and then arrest them when they do.

They do that kind of crap all the time. Example: federal agents pretending to be children online to lure potential pedophiles to mee tthem somewhere on the pretense of having sex with them. They arrest whoever shows up, even though they technically committed no crime (the officer is of course not underage).

There was even a reality TV show dedicated to this.

How many times have they arrested people that showed up to make sure that the 'child' doesn't get into any such trouble, I wonder?

[wotmaniac]

Bait Car is not entrapment.  Bait Car it leaving a car unlocked with cameras and tracking information in it, catching people who steal it.  Entrapment is when a police officer (or someone) tells you to commit a crime, and then gets you in trouble for it.  The classic example is the prostitution thing, where an officer goes up to a prospective customer and says something like "if you give me money I'll have sex with you".  THAT is entrapment.  Bait car doesn't tell people to take the car and then arrest them when they do.

They do that kind of crap all the time. Example: federal agents pretending to be children online to lure potential pedophiles to mee tthem somewhere on the pretense of having sex with them. They arrest whoever shows up, even though they technically committed no crime (the officer is of course not underage).

There was even a reality TV show dedicated to this.

Ah, they avoid the "entrapment" issue by not initiating the contact.  They (the cops) sit around in the chat rooms talking to other kids (real or bait) and wait for one of these freaks to start talking to them.  They talk until the perv explicitly states his intent; and when he shows up at the house, they actually only get him for conspiracy.
Ticky-tack, yes.  But(t) fuck those guys.

[bhu]

Raineh, you're in the UK, right?  I must confess I know nearly nothing about the independence thing.  About the only thing I know that's substantial is that the oil companies didn't want it to happen because it would change things and change is scary.

bhu, wtf is going on in that?  I read the story and cannot understand what happened.  I mean, it sounds like everyone (except that girl) is horrible, and maybe the boy needs to be special needs?  And the adults need jail.  Lots and lots of jail.  You don't need to witness it.  You just need evidence.  And using someone as bait?  If it happens it's entrapment!  So like I said.  Lots and lots of jail.

The girl complained about being sexually harassed by the boy who kept trying to pressure her into the bathrooms for sex.   The school district only punishes sexual harassment if it was witnessed by an adult, or the kid admits it.  So the principal got this idea of using her as bait.  She'd go into the bathrooms with the boy, he'd arrange for a school official to catch the boy in the act.  That way the girl gets rid of her harasser, and the school gets rid of a thorn in their side. 

The problem arose when all the school officials he asked to go in said no (he didn't ask ahead of time, he asked during the sting), and by the time he finally got someone to go in she'd already been forcibly sodomized.  She sued the school under Title IX among other things, and the first judge threw it all out because he said she couldn't prove negligence or deliberate neglect.  Meanwhile she's had to switch schools, her once good grades have fallen into the toilet, and she's afraid to leave her house.

[Raineh Daze]

If I ever need motivation to become an axe-murderer...

[ketaro]

If I ever need motivation to become an axe-murderer...

If you ever need motivation for anything, just go look at the internet

[SolEiji]

If I ever need motivation to become an axe-murderer...

If you ever need motivation for anything, just go look at the internet

And remember to shop at Eiji's Axe Emporium, where Eiji stocks only the finest axes from utilitarian woodcutters axes, to the Chaosrage 5000 straight out of Warhammer 40k.  Come by this weekend for a special event: Buy one axe, and get a free axe murderer victim for free!  Void where prohibited.

[Raineh Daze]

If I ever need motivation to become an axe-murderer...

If you ever need motivation for anything, just go look at the internet

And remember to shop at Eiji's Axe Emporium, where Eiji stocks only the finest axes from utilitarian woodcutters axes, to the Chaosrage 5000 straight out of Warhammer 40k.  Come by this weekend for a special event: Buy one axe, and get a free axe murderer victim for free!  Void where prohibited.

Do you have Gorechild? I mean, it's unlikely, but if you're stocking 40k axes.

[SolEiji]

If I ever need motivation to become an axe-murderer...

If you ever need motivation for anything, just go look at the internet

And remember to shop at Eiji's Axe Emporium, where Eiji stocks only the finest axes from utilitarian woodcutters axes, to the Chaosrage 5000 straight out of Warhammer 40k.  Come by this weekend for a special event: Buy one axe, and get a free axe murderer victim for free!  Void where prohibited.

Do you have Gorechild? I mean, it's unlikely, but if you're stocking 40k axes.

Your order number #40000 has been placed.  One Gorechild to be delivered to the UK.  Would you like it gift wrapped?  We have various colors including blue, red, green, fuchsia, and ochre.

[FireInTheSky]

If I ever need motivation to become an axe-murderer...

If you ever need motivation for anything, just go look at the internet

And remember to shop at Eiji's Axe Emporium, where Eiji stocks only the finest axes from utilitarian woodcutters axes, to the Chaosrage 5000 straight out of Warhammer 40k.  Come by this weekend for a special event: Buy one axe, and get a free axe murderer victim for free!  Void where prohibited.

Do you have Gorechild? I mean, it's unlikely, but if you're stocking 40k axes.

Your order number #40000 has been placed.  One Gorechild to be delivered to the UK.  Would you like it gift wrapped?  We have various colors including blue, red, green, fuchsia, and ochreogre.

FTFY

[Jackinthegreen]

Just don't use the thing. :/

Easier said than done when people already have a lot of contacts there, some of which can only be reliably contacted on the site.

[ketaro]

[Raineh Daze]

Naturally, the daily mail is reporting it.

[Kajhera]

... my first thought on reading that was she must have really wanted the part for Eccentrica Gallumbits ...