Video Game discussion

[Kuroimaken]

Yeah... no. Not really. I always thought TES was kind of overhyped, honestly.

I might enjoy Fallout online though. Appeals a lot more to me.

[Nanshork]

I've never used a companion in TES.  They always annoy me and do things I don't want them to.

[Sinfire Titan]

I found one on Amazon for $120, but that's still a bit much for me right now (that's a full week of pay for me, assuming I can go without food for a week).

lo... Wait, is he serious?

I wouldn't doubt it. A full week of pay for me is just over $50.

That's insane. Are there no minimum wage laws in effect?

That's after my rent you guys...

@Nytemare: I assume you work as a server or something if you make that little a week, or you just have horrible hours.

[X-Codes]

I've never used a companion in TES.  They always annoy me and do things I don't want them to.

They're also OP as shit in Skyrim.

But yeah, without mods these games are not that good, and ESO is also pretty bad.

[oslecamo]

Speaking of incoming hyped MMOs, Everquest Next intrigues me with its promise of fully indestructible enviroments. If they can actually do that, it will be glorious seeing the players turn the game world into a wasteland. "Yes, here used to be the glorious main capital of the kingdom. It was turned into a pile of rubble in 5 hours by the 2pro4u guild."

Oh, and Everquest Next will also be free from start, which is always a plus on my book.

I've never used a companion in TES.  They always annoy me and do things I don't want them to.

They're also OP as shit in Skyrim.

Still not as OP as custom spell creation in the previous titles. 

[linklord231]

I got bored with Oblivion before finishing it because you could stack custom Chameleon enchants up above 100% making you constantly invisible. Also because the main quest line glitched and i couldn't progress any farther, and I was playing on console so I couldn't fix it manually.

[Raineh Daze]

I got bored with Oblivion before finishing it because you could stack custom Chameleon enchants up above 100% making you constantly invisible. Also because the main quest line glitched and i couldn't progress any farther, and I was playing on console so I couldn't fix it manually.

... you got bored because you could intentionally do something to make the game trivial? :O

[X-Codes]

I got bored with Oblivion before finishing it because you could stack custom Chameleon enchants up above 100% making you constantly invisible. Also because the main quest line glitched and i couldn't progress any farther, and I was playing on console so I couldn't fix it manually.

... you got bored because you could intentionally do something to make the game trivial? :O

We're hardcore CO'ers.  Self-restraint just isn't part of who we are.

That said, it's still better than Skyrim.  In Skyrim, just get past level 10 and accidentally make the game trivial.

[Raineh Daze]

I got bored with Oblivion before finishing it because you could stack custom Chameleon enchants up above 100% making you constantly invisible. Also because the main quest line glitched and i couldn't progress any farther, and I was playing on console so I couldn't fix it manually.

... you got bored because you could intentionally do something to make the game trivial? :O

We're hardcore CO'ers.  Self-restraint just isn't part of who we are.

I feel sorry for you. Video games cannot take that kind of abuse. XD

Mostly play RTS's and stuff myself, at which I am generally shoddy, so not an issue.

That said, it's still better than Skyrim.  In Skyrim, just get past level 10 and accidentally make the game trivial.

... which I still found fun. Though due to mods I think that was scenery porn, and being able to run and jump ludicrously fast (one magic mod + dual casting a restoration spell, and...) and basically OHKO people with an unarmed vampire. XD

[Kuroimaken]

Say, kids. Anyone know some relatively recent turn-based strategy games? I've been playing XCOM: Enemy Within a lot, and while it's a great game, I'm starting to get burned out by it - but I still want to play strategy games. Bonus points for sci-fi.

[linklord231]

I got bored with Oblivion before finishing it because you could stack custom Chameleon enchants up above 100% making you constantly invisible. Also because the main quest line glitched and i couldn't progress any farther, and I was playing on console so I couldn't fix it manually.

... you got bored because you could intentionally do something to make the game trivial? :O

We're hardcore CO'ers.  Self-restraint just isn't part of who we are.

That said, it's still better than Skyrim.  In Skyrim, just get past level 10 and accidentally make the game trivial.

Actually, I discovered the Chameleon thing on accident.  On the other hand, I just hit level 10 on Skyrim on my most recent playthrough, and I haven't managed to entirely trivialize it yet.  I did on my first playthough by dual casting Destruction and stun-locking everything, but I haven't hit that point with this character.  Focusing on 2H weapons and heavy armor, and dabbling in smithing and enchanting.

[Kethrian]

Say, kids. Anyone know some relatively recent turn-based strategy games? I've been playing XCOM: Enemy Within a lot, and while it's a great game, I'm starting to get burned out by it - but I still want to play strategy games. Bonus points for sci-fi.

Do you like Master of Orion 2?  If so, there's Endless Space.  Other games I could suggest are: Skulls of the Shogun, Blood Bowl, Dungeons of Dredmor, Sword of the Stars: The Pit, Agarest: Generations of War, Might & Magic Heroes 6, Shadowrun Returns.

Now, while all of those games are turn-based, not all of them are the same type of strategy as XCOM.  A couple are rogue-likes, one's a sport game (but fun!), etc.

Now, if you want a very different type of strategy game, and don't mind that it isn't turn-based, check out Majesty 2.

[Kuroimaken]

I've actually played MoO3. Will note those down though. 

[Unbeliever]

...
That said, it's still better than Skyrim.  In Skyrim, just get past level 10 and accidentally make the game trivial.

Sort of my experience.  Messing with the subsystems in Skyrim my second playthrough -- namely alchemy and crafting, which I had sort of neglected on my first playthrough -- ended up trivializing the content pretty quickly. 

That being said, Skyrim's combat mechanics aren't great anyway.  So, the game really has to rely on its scenery porn, etc. to keep interest. 

It also doesn't help that my time to play games is absurdly small.  I have a ton of games sitting at home that I have been meaning to play.

[ketaro]

I don't know what you guys are on about. Knock the game up to the max difficulty (Skyrim) and your crafting abuse is pointless. I've honestly never felt the need to apply any mods just to get a challenge out of the game.
That and once you break into the really high levels, the mobs are just as high level or higher and you will never be able to fully abuse anything you could have to breeze through encounters at lower levels.

Gosh, even my sneak attack can't do more than 1/3-1/2 hp dmg to most things and it's so hard to get in more than one in a row. Speccing Conjuration helped tho as my summons (and companion) attract so much more attention than me. It's like I summon and send forth my party and I'm in the back being a cleric xD

But then like I would guess you peeps will probably just say that's a boring way to play, just sitting back and watching the fights end themselves. But whatever. I don't need steroids to enhance my ability, I can have more than enough fun with my vanilla icecream just fine

[Raineh Daze]

I don't know what you guys are on about. Knock the game up to the max difficulty (Skyrim) and your crafting abuse is pointless. I've honestly never felt the need to apply any mods just to get a challenge out of the game.
That and once you break into the really high levels, the mobs are just as high level or higher and you will never be able to fully abuse anything you could have to breeze through encounters at lower levels.

Gosh, even my sneak attack can't do more than 1/3-1/2 hp dmg to most things and it's so hard to get in more than one in a row. Speccing Conjuration helped tho as my summons (and companion) attract so much more attention than me. It's like I summon and send forth my party and I'm in the back being a cleric xD

But then like I would guess you peeps will probably just say that's a boring way to play, just sitting back and watching the fights end themselves. But whatever. I don't need steroids to enhance my ability, I can have more than enough fun with my vanilla icecream just fine

Eww, grindfest. D:

I add things because I want more stuff to play with, though. Not for difficulty.

... and more than half the mods I have installed are graphical, anyway.

[X-Codes]

I've actually played MoO3. Will note those down though. 

MoO3 is awful.  MoO2 is where it's at.  It's also available for cheap on GoG.

I don't know what you guys are on about. Knock the game up to the max difficulty (Skyrim) and your crafting abuse is pointless. I've honestly never felt the need to apply any mods just to get a challenge out of the game.
That and once you break into the really high levels, the mobs are just as high level or higher and you will never be able to fully abuse anything you could have to breeze through encounters at lower levels.

Max difficulty means you just have to beat on things longer and you need a ranged attack to deal with archers.  Just stagger them with a Destruction dual-cast and then wail on them with a one-hander or two until they stand back up again.  Rinse & repeat.  Speed up the process by smithing a bunch of trivial items like iron arrows, iron daggers, and leather bracers and then improve a suit of steel armor (or better, Wolf Armor from the Companions which you can even sneak in) and steel melee weapons with the Steel Smithing perk and just invest in Armsman and Juggernaut for multiplicative bonuses on weapons and armor that's effectively superior to Daedric gear once you hit Expert smithing (and gets ridiculous if you also abuse high-end Fortify Smithing potions and enchantments).

[Nunkuruji]

My main complaint for Skyrim was that they didn't evolve the combat worth a damn.

Take the timing elements of Demon's/Dark Souls as a better example.

It remains a wonderful sandbox for modders, as sometimes creating something is more fun than simply being the consumer.

[X-Codes]

My main complaint for Skyrim was that they didn't evolve the combat worth a damn.

I feel like it's actually worse than in Oblivion.  Having to un-equip your weapons to cast spells is a pain, and in the case of two-handers it doesn't necessarily make all that much sense, either.  Skyrim does allow for dual-casting, but you're dual-casting crappy, generic Skyrim spells instead of whatever weird shit you feel like making with the spellmaker in Oblivion.

[oslecamo]

Early Skyrim  enemies are quite weak yes. But later on I had full daedric armor pimped up by both high smithing and buffing enchantments (aka reached the armor value hard-cap), and enemies like forsworn could still two-shot me if I got distracted. And they come in groups pretty much always, so not like I can stagger-lock them.