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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #680 on: February 02, 2013, 06:15:20 PM »
Played Faster Than Light?

No, but I once got a speeding ticket from physics.

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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #681 on: February 02, 2013, 11:55:55 PM »
Played Faster Than Light?

No, but I once got a speeding ticket from physics.
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Very very difficult, but fun.  It drew me in for a bit but didn't hold my attention; I haven't touched it in months.

Hmm.  I was kind of afraid of that.  I'm afraid that I'd play it for a few weeks, die repeatedly, get frustrated, and never play again.  Maybe if it goes on sale... $5 for a couple hours' masochistic glee isn't too bad.
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« Reply #682 on: February 03, 2013, 07:18:03 PM »
Hmm.  I was kind of afraid of that.  I'm afraid that I'd play it for a few weeks, die repeatedly, get frustrated, and never play again.  Maybe if it goes on sale... $5 for a couple hours' masochistic glee isn't too bad.

It saddens me that this was my reaction to Dark Souls. Beat the first boss without even taking damage, then died 40 times in the very next section because I got swarmed by 3 skeletons and their giant brother. And running away did not help me at all!
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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #683 on: February 03, 2013, 07:45:55 PM »
Hmm.  I was kind of afraid of that.  I'm afraid that I'd play it for a few weeks, die repeatedly, get frustrated, and never play again.  Maybe if it goes on sale... $5 for a couple hours' masochistic glee isn't too bad.

It saddens me that this was my reaction to Dark Souls. Beat the first boss without even taking damage, then died 40 times in the very next section because I got swarmed by 3 skeletons and their giant brother. And running away did not help me at all!

That sounds suspiciously like you went the wrong way out of firelink shrine.

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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #684 on: February 04, 2013, 03:23:25 AM »
Hmm.  I was kind of afraid of that.  I'm afraid that I'd play it for a few weeks, die repeatedly, get frustrated, and never play again.  Maybe if it goes on sale... $5 for a couple hours' masochistic glee isn't too bad.
It saddens me that this was my reaction to Dark Souls. Beat the first boss without even taking damage, then died 40 times in the very next section because I got swarmed by 3 skeletons and their giant brother. And running away did not help me at all!
That sounds suspiciously like you went the wrong way out of firelink shrine.
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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #685 on: February 04, 2013, 04:26:50 AM »
Hmm.  I was kind of afraid of that.  I'm afraid that I'd play it for a few weeks, die repeatedly, get frustrated, and never play again.  Maybe if it goes on sale... $5 for a couple hours' masochistic glee isn't too bad.
It saddens me that this was my reaction to Dark Souls. Beat the first boss without even taking damage, then died 40 times in the very next section because I got swarmed by 3 skeletons and their giant brother. And running away did not help me at all!
That sounds suspiciously like you went the wrong way out of firelink shrine.
Can you blame him? He was drawn to Nito because Nito is just so... neat-o!

And ridiculously easy to beat along with the other boss in the catacombs

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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #686 on: February 04, 2013, 05:26:42 AM »
Amen to that.

Four Kings on the other hand...

EDIT: Although if you think about it, Pinwheel is intentionally easy so you can get the Rite of Kindling earlier in each subsequent playthrough. (Reminds me what a pain in the ass it is to get into the Darkwraiths...
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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #687 on: February 04, 2013, 06:45:41 AM »
Amen to that.

Four Kings on the other hand...


Let's not forget Ornstein and Smough.... The first time through them can be.... hard.

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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #688 on: February 04, 2013, 07:42:38 AM »
Depends on if you're aiming to get Ornstein's or Smough's soul. Supersize Smough isn't as hard as Supersize Ornstein (Smough is considerably slower and telegraphs a LOT more.)
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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #689 on: February 04, 2013, 08:38:56 AM »
Depends on if you're aiming to get Ornstein's or Smough's soul. Supersize Smough isn't as hard as Supersize Ornstein (Smough is considerably slower and telegraphs a LOT more.)

Most of the time Orny is the problem... So much that even when I dodge him, Smough's hammer tends to be waiting me when I finish rolling... And when Orny gets Super Saiyan things tends to get messy.

I heard Artorias and Manus are quite a challenge as well (got the DLC, but no time to actually play it... yet. Going with a Sunbro this time).

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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #690 on: February 04, 2013, 10:18:37 AM »
Artorias is a pain but at least he has a pattern. Manus is just... all over the place. I confess, I only beat him by using the Manslayer Redux trick.
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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #691 on: February 06, 2013, 03:06:23 AM »
I picked up a DS this past Black Friday, and a bunch of games (almost all RPGs) for it.  So far, my main experience has been playing Radiant Historia, it just turned out to be such an amazingly good RPG that I was playing it exclusively.  Good plot, music was enjoyable despite the small size of the track list, lovely graphics...  The battle system wasn't terribly complicated, but I *like* the old turn-based setup, and RH implements enough new features (extremely liberal turn order switching; moving enemies all around into the same spot to affect them all with a powerful spell/attack; building up the combo meter for bonus xp/gold) to keep it entertaining.  Oh, and no random encounters!  The use of time travel was brilliant, it not only lets you, but outright encourages/requires you to mess up on decisions and try out different things, then go back and try things differently, a process which avoids becoming monotonous or annoying thanks to very easy skip and fast forward options for dialogue/cutscenes.

Now I'm on Suikoden Tierkreis, which is actually the reason I got the DS to begin with.  Suikoden is my favorite game series, and I was determined to pick this game up and play it, even though all have said it is not nearly as good as the "main storyline" Suikoden titles.  Which is true, sadly.  On the plus side, a bad Suikoden game is like a small lottery payout.  You wish it was more, but you're still getting something.  I don't know how far through I am, but I'm guessing about half-way.  I love the music, the graphics look good for DS (a bit below RH's level, but RH is also newer) aside from the super deformed character models, which was just a bad decision.  The plot is awful/simplistic compared to other Suikodens but on par with most other RPGs, I think, and while "Calvanism is stupid, lol!" *is* a simple premise, I'm a sucker for camp and jokes, and the game certainly has a lot of fun pointing out just HOW stupid pre-determinism is.  The "war battles" are just a (tiny) series of forced regular battles now, which is a huge disappointment, as is the new magic and weapon/equipment system, and the voice acting for the main character and some other primary people is awful, though it is fine to good for a lot of the lesser ones.  The money-making system is interesting, they went for "realism."  You get no money from fights at all, just trade goods like animal pelts, or possibly some equipment if fighting enemies with gear.  To make money, you need to sell this stuff at trading posts, along w/ buying and selling on your own.  Since you can buy from a place and sell it right back for the same amount and prices for a town never change (aside from the occasional trade event, like food prices spiking in one town for a short while), it's pretty risk-free, and allows you to accumulate massive wealth without needing to grind fights.  But...it turns wealth generation into a sort of fetch quest, which may be even less appealing than grinding (I think it's a bit less annoying, myself).  You still have the headquarters and unite attacks like other Suikodens, and the 108 Stars of Destiny Starbearers.  Thus far, definitely seems like a fine game, just not an amazing one.

I have played the DS re-released Chrono Trigger for all of 5-10 minutes so far.  Can't comment too much on it other than to say the DS control scheme seems REALLY awkward: the top screen shows a room in full detail, but you need to use the touch screen to move around with the stylus, and the touch screen only shows the room as a tiny geometric shape with maybe some black outlining barriers/objects in the room.  Also, Crono looks like he's either 25 years old or on steroids (both) in the manual art and new opening movie.  Which is all the more striking because his childhood friend Lucca still actually looks like she should for her age.

Other DS games I've yet to even really touch but I now own: FF Tactics A2 (I played FF Tactics, never played FFT Advance, did not like at all the things I heard about it); Golden Sun: Dark Dawn (I have never played any prior Golden Sun game).  Plus some other games for my wife I never plan on playing.

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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #692 on: February 06, 2013, 05:06:22 AM »
My Ex thoroughly enjoyed A2. Another one was the DS Castlevania's, she said were really, really good. DS Chrono Trigger is just the same SNES Chrono Trigger with a few cutscenes, which i believe were included in the PS1 version also. It's a good game, but i don't see any reason to buy it for the DS, and not just play it on an SNES/PS1 emulator. That said, i'm not really into the portable scene since the GB Color, apart from playing on my EX's DS when we were dating. They got too expensive. A PS Vita where i live is even more expensive than a PS3! It's unreasonable.
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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #693 on: February 06, 2013, 05:26:51 AM »
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn (I have never played any prior Golden Sun game). 

The two first golden sun games are some of the best RPGs I've ever played, even taking in account they were for GBA. They're also actually a single game that was too awesome to be fitted in just 1 cartridge
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So I would highly sugest picking up and trying them out if you can.

Unfortenely still hadn't time to try out Dark Dawn, but another DS games I would sugest is Advance Wars Days of Ruins (or any advance wars title for the matter, Days of Ruins is the latest title and does set a "darker" tone on the series tough).
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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #694 on: February 06, 2013, 08:23:15 AM »
My Ex thoroughly enjoyed A2. Another one was the DS Castlevania's, she said were really, really good. DS Chrono Trigger is just the same SNES Chrono Trigger with a few cutscenes, which i believe were included in the PS1 version also. It's a good game, but i don't see any reason to buy it for the DS, and not just play it on an SNES/PS1 emulator. That said, i'm not really into the portable scene since the GB Color, apart from playing on my EX's DS when we were dating. They got too expensive. A PS Vita where i live is even more expensive than a PS3! It's unreasonable.

It's all taxes. And if you stop to think about it, PS3s got less expensive around here after they figured out how to jailbreak them.

And people wonder why piracy is rampant here...
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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #695 on: February 06, 2013, 08:31:21 AM »
And on a more on-topic note, if you haven't played it, I really recommend Devil's Survivor 2. It's basically TRPG Shin Megami Tensei, which is awesome all on its own. Really cool story, too.
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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #696 on: February 06, 2013, 01:13:18 PM »
I have played the DS re-released Chrono Trigger for all of 5-10 minutes so far.  Can't comment too much on it other than to say the DS control scheme seems REALLY awkward: the top screen shows a room in full detail, but you need to use the touch screen to move around with the stylus, and the touch screen only shows the room as a tiny geometric shape with maybe some black outlining barriers/objects in the room.  Also, Crono looks like he's either 25 years old or on steroids (both) in the manual art and new opening movie.  Which is all the more striking because his childhood friend Lucca still actually looks like she should for her age.

There's no need to use the stylus for DS Chrono Trigger.  Just use the d-pad like usual.    The touch screen is drawn such that you get the basic layout of the room and it also shows which areas you've explored.  It's a grid system on the bottom and it's usually quite obvious where a yet-to-be explored place is.  Once you've been to all the places you can on the map the whole thing will be revealed, though it's still just the white lines pretty much.

As far as the manual art and movies, keep in mind that Akira Toriyama of Dragonball fame was the character designer.  So most of the women will be looking young and most of the guys will be looking buff.

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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #697 on: February 06, 2013, 02:46:42 PM »
My Ex thoroughly enjoyed A2. Another one was the DS Castlevania's, she said were really, really good. DS Chrono Trigger is just the same SNES Chrono Trigger with a few cutscenes, which i believe were included in the PS1 version also. It's a good game, but i don't see any reason to buy it for the DS, and not just play it on an SNES/PS1 emulator. That said, i'm not really into the portable scene since the GB Color, apart from playing on my EX's DS when we were dating. They got too expensive. A PS Vita where i live is even more expensive than a PS3! It's unreasonable.

It's all taxes. And if you stop to think about it, PS3s got less expensive around here after they figured out how to jailbreak them.

And people wonder why piracy is rampant here...

Even if they managed to Jailbreak them, i still hear it's buggy as hell, and BD media is still expensive. TBH, i still prefer to play only a few really good titles on the PS3 rather than risking bricking it by jailbreaking it. Not like the XBox, which has a proven method that doesn't brick your console.

But, even if you take into account american prices, handhelds are still expensive as hell. They got much, much more expensive post GBA. They started aiming for better and better graphics, trying to achieve similar graphics to the console experience, and that made the hardware too expensive, too costly. But i guess that's mostly true of the PSP/PSVita, as the DS didn't start to follow that path until very recently.

It also doesn't help that PC's and Consoles in general became more expensive as well, so that leaves less money to spend on a handheld device. But i guess that can't be helped... With a student budget there are only so many things i can manage to buy in a year. Now that my son is born as well, i think it'll be a while before i'm able to get my hands on a handheld.

Maybe if i play my cards right i might be able to jump in that ship when the new nintendo handheld launches.
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Re: Video Game dicussion
« Reply #698 on: February 06, 2013, 10:40:52 PM »
There's no need to use the stylus for DS Chrono Trigger.  Just use the d-pad like usual.    The touch screen is drawn such that you get the basic layout of the room and it also shows which areas you've explored.  It's a grid system on the bottom and it's usually quite obvious where a yet-to-be explored place is.  Once you've been to all the places you can on the map the whole thing will be revealed, though it's still just the white lines pretty much.

Holding down the D-pad is probably the single thing I miss least from old school gaming.  I'd really rather have the stylus set up work for me, though having the D-pad for precision maneuvering is nice to have as an option, at least.

As far as the manual art and movies, keep in mind that Akira Toriyama of Dragonball fame was the character designer.  So most of the women will be looking young and most of the guys will be looking buff.

Ick....that explains it.  I guess I'm the only one who *hates* his character designs.  He even managed to make Ayla look kinda ugly, I didn't think that was possible!

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« Reply #699 on: February 07, 2013, 01:35:10 AM »
Ugly compared to the ingame graphics I'm guessing?  They did have to make the sprites more emotive and so the girls got a bit cuter due to pixel positions and of course the guys got a little less buff.

Perhaps the angles in the movies aren't very flattering for her?  *shrug*  Lots of good fan art though.  Hehe

But yeah, Toriyama's stuff just fits for Dragonball, but for Chrono Trigger it's a bit off.  Sure one would expect Chrono to have some muscles and tone since he's at least a decent katana trainee, but there's no way he's getting that buff through his normal stuff.

Dangit, I really want to stat Ayla up now!  Probably Neanderthal race and unarmed barbarian levels, but going from there I'm not sure.
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