Wardancer (3.5 base)

[sirpercival]

Tiger Claw is about Ferocity, this class is about grace. Scarlet Rose even calls that difference out.

When evil things come into the forest, a regular elf skulks between the trees, methodically taking them down with his bow.

A Wardancer elf dyes his hair red, paints sigils on his bare chest and puts on his best underwear, then runs to the enemy and chops him to pieces. While doing somersaults.

Trust me, any concept taken from Warhammer will have ferocity in it.

Yeah, but I didn't take the concept from warhammer... I stole a warhammer picture (which I've since changed), but that's about it.

[Braininthejar]

Even then, any dance is an expression of emotion.

EDIT: This gave me a vision of a wardancer dispatching her enemies while doing tango 

[sirpercival]

So... I'm having such a hard time choosing between this and Wyrm Warrior... that I have an idea for a new feat. How about this?

Yes, let's make feats that turn multiclasses into gestalts!!  Lol.

I have a suggestion: Legion just leveled.  Retcon his newest level into Wyrm Warrior and go from there.  You could even go into IotSV, you know?

[phaedrusxy]

So... I'm having such a hard time choosing between this and Wyrm Warrior... that I have an idea for a new feat. How about this?

Yes, let's make feats that turn multiclasses into gestalts!!  Lol.

Hey, it's not like there's no precedent! All those Stalker this and Ascetic that feats...

I have a suggestion: Legion just leveled.  Retcon his newest level into Wyrm Warrior and go from there.  You could even go into IotSV, you know?

Hmm... not a bad idea at all... I just redid my character sheet for the Okilei girl, though.

[sirpercival]

ACF and 3/5 feats up.

[GuyFawkes]

Liking the feats, especially Breath of the Goddess. Two rolls and pick the better one? With Supreme Wardance, I think we all know which attack roll that is. Foxfire is badass if you take into account how the wardancer is most probably weaving through the battlefield. A visual treat. Autumn's Touch is useful as well, mitigating trips a bit.

So, I take it it's one feat for every discipline?

[sirpercival]

Liking the feats, especially Breath of the Goddess. Two rolls and pick the better one? With Supreme Wardance, I think we all know which attack roll that is. Foxfire is badass if you take into account how the wardancer is most probably weaving through the battlefield. A visual treat. Autumn's Touch is useful as well, mitigating trips a bit.

So, I take it it's one feat for every discipline?

You are correct.  Not sure if I should make one for Divine Muse or not, though...

I know Breath of the Goddess is quite powerful.  Should the prereqs be higher?

[sirpercival]

Last two feats are up.

[phaedrusxy]

For the Dance of Thorns, if you have a source of extra damage, like... I don't know, say... a mass of nuclear fire on your weapon, would those damaged by this feat also take that damage?

[sirpercival]

For the Dance of Thorns, if you have a source of extra damage, like... I don't know, say... a mass of nuclear fire on your weapon, would those damaged by this feat also take that damage?

I hadn't decided.  I didn't want this one feat to make you a supernova without having to make attacks...

[Bozwevial]

For the Dance of Thorns, if you have a source of extra damage, like... I don't know, say... a mass of nuclear fire on your weapon, would those damaged by this feat also take that damage?

I hadn't decided.  I didn't want this one feat to make you a supernova without having to make attacks...

I quite like it. I'll probably wind up taking it, assuming that I can count one of my blade appendages as an off-hand weapon. I've been operating under that assumption for a great many of the Scarlet Rose maneuvers, though.

[sirpercival]

Yes, that's fine.  What's your opinion on phae's question?

[ariasderros]

For my part, when I read "base damage" I take that to mean just the weapons base damage alone. That would meant no damage from the wielder at all. Like it's being thrown by TK. So if your off-hand weapon has its base damage as 1d6, then everyone you move past takes 1d6 damage.

Granted, just as a TK thrown weapon would deal more damage if it was Flaming, so to should the Dance of Thorns.

/2cp

[sirpercival]

For my part, when I read "base damage" I take that to mean just the weapons base damage alone. That would meant no damage from the wielder at all. Like it's being thrown by TK. So if your off-hand weapon has its base damage as 1d6, then everyone you move past takes 1d6 damage.

Granted, just as a TK thrown weapon would deal more damage if it was Flaming, so to should the Dance of Thorns.

/2cp

Yes, that was my intention.  Can you think of a way to word that cleanly?  I don't mind adding stuff like Flaming.

[Bozwevial]

Yes, that's fine.  What's your opinion on phae's question?

He's changed his build every time I look back at it, let me see what he is now.

Hmm, that would be the Fire Walker's Burn damage applying to this, yeah? It sounds like it ought to apply, since technically the weapon is dealing damage. I guess it's really up to you. It might be a bit much for one feat, but then again you'd need a reasonable investment to make that happen. I'm not quite sure how I'd rule it.

[ariasderros]

Yes, that was my intention.  Can you think of a way to word that cleanly?  I don't mind adding stuff like Flaming.

In cases like this, It would be easier to say what damage does get added, rather than try to say what doesn't.

"The damage dealt is equal to what the weapon itself deals, with no bonuses from the wielder (including bonus damage from strength, precision damage, or any other damage bonus from the wielder). If the weapon has additional bonus damage from itself, such as from magical qualities, this damage is added on and is not changed to piercing. In essence, this is because the Wardancer is able to position herself as she moves to make people impale themselves on her weapons as she moves past them when she doesn't attack them."

Last line not necessary, just funny.

[phaedrusxy]

Yes, that's fine.  What's your opinion on phae's question?

He's changed his build every time I look back at it, let me see what he is now.

Hmm, that would be the Fire Walker's Burn damage applying to this, yeah? It sounds like it ought to apply, since technically the weapon is dealing damage. I guess it's really up to you. It might be a bit much for one feat, but then again you'd need a reasonable investment to make that happen. I'm not quite sure how I'd rule it.

I had Dragonfire Inspiration in there, which with all the tweaks I have to bardic music would give me +8d6 fire damage. I decided it wasn't worth the investment, though, since I can use TWF and Power Attack together in this game.

[sirpercival]

OK, try that wording on for size.

[Bozwevial]

Oh, another point of clarification. You may wish to specify that you can only damage a given opponent once per round in that fashion. I'm assuming that was your intent, at least.

[sirpercival]

Oh, another point of clarification. You may wish to specify that you can only damage a given opponent once per round in that fashion. I'm assuming that was your intent, at least.

Yes, that's a good idea.