Imbuing Spells Into Weapons

[kevin video]

Direct question from a player.

Both the Duskblade and Arcane Archer can imbue spells into their attacks. Is there another class that can do that, but with a thrown weapon?

Is there?

[NunoM]

Well... I'm not sure if i'm reading it correctly, but before a, say, a dagger is thrown, it *is* considered a melee weapon.

I add 2 "imbuers" and 1 question to the pot: does imbuing, via the Spellsword ability or the Arcane Strike feat, and throwing the weapon afterwards discharge the spell on the target?

I know the Duskblade ability doesn't work this way, 'cause it needs a melee attack to deliver the spell, but these other two i mention, only specify that the target has to be a melee weapon. One could always throw an imbued longsword by taking the -4 penalty to attack, right?

[littha]

Combine duskblade and bloodstorm blade and you can

[kevin video]

Combine duskblade and bloodstorm blade and you can

Is that RAW?

[littha]

Afb at the moment but I am pretty sure it is.

[kevin video]

Afb at the moment but I am pretty sure it is.

I know that the level 2 ability allows you to make a strike with a thrown weapon, so I guess that still work with an imbued spell.

Basically you'd need to go Duskblade 3/Warblade 2/Bloodstorm Blade 2 to do it. The problem will be the Balance 8 ranks. Unless you can somehow get Balance as a class skill for duskblades.

[littha]

Martial study in stone dragon or iron heart

[kevin video]

Martial study in stone dragon or iron heart

You need an Iron Heart stance and strike, so that would work too.

Other options for classes that can do this are welcomed as well.

[linklord231]

Daggerspell Mage (CAdv, pg 33): 
Arcane Throw (Ex): At 8th level and higher, a daggerspellmage can imbue arcane spell power into his thrown daggers. The mage can deliver a touch spell with a thrown dagger just as if he were making a melee attack. If the dagger hits, the touch spell is discharged against the creature or object struck. If the dagger misses its intended target, the dagger returns to the mage just before his next turn (as if it had the returning special ability; see page 225 of the Dungeon Master’s Guide) and retains the spell just as if the mage had missed with a melee attack.

[littha]

There is always spell storing weapons too but they are not quite as efficient

[Prime32]

Afb at the moment but I am pretty sure it is.

I know that the level 2 ability allows you to make a strike with a thrown weapon, so I guess that still work with an imbued spell.

Basically you'd need to go Duskblade 3/Warblade 2/Bloodstorm Blade 2 to do it. The problem will be the Balance 8 ranks. Unless you can somehow get Balance as a class skill for duskblades.

Nah, one of their abilities (lv4 I think?) lets you treat thrown attacks as melee attacks for all purposes - that's what you're looking for here.

[Thurbane]

If I'm reading it correctly, the Smiting Spell metamagic feat (PHB2 p.92) should work for thrown weapons.

I thought Ordained Champion (CC p.90) might work, but it's channeling ability seems to be limited to melee weapons as well.

[NunoM]

I think you're reading the Smiting Spell feat correctly and the Ordained Champion part, too.

Combine a "imbue melee weapon ability" from classes like Ordained Champion and Spellsword, with the Throw Anything feat and you're golden

The description for melee weapons in the PHB p. 112, states:

Melee weapons are used for making melee attacks, though some of them can be thrown as well.

According to this, if i'm reading it correctly, if a dagger or spear is thrown it doesn't cease to be a melee weapon, so they're eligible for imbuing abilities that target melee weapons and they deliver the spell even if thrown.

[Unbeliever]

Ordained Champion doesn't say you can't throw it.  A generous DM would let you, especially if you're clear about your concept.  And, it's not exactly unreasonable.  You have to get a returning weapon, so that's a cost, and the OC paragraph goes out of its way to spell out all the limitations on the ability and doesn't include a not uncommon clause like "if it leaves your hand the spell dissipates."  So, I can see that as a reasonable read.

[kurashu]

I worked out an Archivist/Warblade/Sacred Exorcist/Ordained Champion/Bloodstorm Blade build that worked off this idea. The idea was to throw longswords around the battlefield and channel spells throw them.

I worked on a different one that was Cleric/Battlesmith and used Warhammers instead. I named him Hammer Bro.