smite evil while cleaving ?

[dumah87]

I mean:

charge an enemy (with Rhino's Rush spell)
smite him/her
kill him/her
cleave to another one, then smite him/her again while gaining +2 bonus attack from charge attack and double damages from Rhino's Rush spell

is it legal?

thank you

[ksbsnowowl]

I'm assuming you are talking about the Paladin's Smite Evil, with is a Supernatural ability, which requires a Standard action, thus you cannot use it on a charge.

As it is a standard action to smite, you cannot use it on a Cleave attack.

The damage on the cleave would not be doubled.  "The first charge attack you make before the end of the round deals double damage on a successful hit."  Your cleave attack would not be the "first charge attack," and as such would not be doubled.

[brujon]

I'm assuming you are talking about the Paladin's Smite Evil, with is a Supernatural ability, which requires a Standard action, thus you cannot use it on a charge.

As it is a standard action to smite, you cannot use it on a Cleave attack.

The damage on the cleave would not be doubled.  "The first charge attack you make before the end of the round deals double damage on a successful hit."  Your cleave attack would not be the "first charge attack," and as such would not be doubled.

If it was a mounted charge then you could use smite evil because the mount provides the charge with a move leaving you with a standard...

[veekie]

I'm assuming you are talking about the Paladin's Smite Evil, with is a Supernatural ability, which requires a Standard action

Once per day, a paladin may attempt to smite evil with one normal melee attack. She adds her Charisma bonus (if any) to her attack roll and deals 1 extra point of damage per paladin level.

Its not, it directly modifies the melee attack. The question stands.

[dumah87]

I'm assuming you are talking about the Paladin's Smite Evil, with is a Supernatural ability, which requires a Standard action, thus you cannot use it on a charge.

As it is a standard action to smite, you cannot use it on a Cleave attack.

The damage on the cleave would not be doubled.  "The first charge attack you make before the end of the round deals double damage on a successful hit."  Your cleave attack would not be the "first charge attack," and as such would not be doubled.

charging smite ACF

and about the standard action to smite the PHB says "a paladin may attempt to smite evil with one normal melee attack". For me it means that I can smite wich every attack i want. Isn't it?

[dumah87]

I would say that a "normal melee attack" is any melee attack where you use your weapon to do damage. Things that are not normal attacks would then be things like trip, disarm, sunder. Yes, these are all special attack actions, but I think that's not the distinction we're looking for (especially as it would contradict the Charging Smite alternate class feature from PHB2).