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Offline lianightdemon

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Re: Psion and Sorcerer - Who gets the better deal?
« Reply #80 on: September 24, 2012, 05:32:57 PM »
Psions don't need to move the world they make their own. Genesis + True Creation+fabricate

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Re: Psion and Sorcerer - Who gets the better deal?
« Reply #81 on: September 24, 2012, 06:29:05 PM »
Sorcerer: Genesis + True Creation + Fabricate, I got one too.
Sorcerer: Greater Planeshift says I'm never off target while porting into my home either and Precipitate [Complete] Breach says I can punch holes in your plane. In fact, if such a hole is divinely morphic, I can control your plane like a boss (well a god but w/e).

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even at int 12, you're character is smarter than you btw

Only if your IQ is less than 120  :D
Hmm, I wonder how well that hold true? Think originally 12 Int meant to be comparable to a 120 IQ score? Having 34 Int suddenly sounds pretty damn impressive...
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Re: Psion and Sorcerer - Who gets the better deal?
« Reply #82 on: September 24, 2012, 07:55:29 PM »
Assumption 1: Human stats vary naturally between 3 and 18, weighed as a standard 3d6 bell curve
Assumption 2: Humans in our world do not go beyond level 6 (go dig up various articles debating that point yourself)

The highest mental stat a person can have in our world is thus 22, but since it increased with age, it can't correspond directly with IQ (as IQ is meant to be the same over one's lifespan), so we are disregarding Int gains from aging.

The highest IQ that has been measured is 228, according to my (admittedly short) research, and one standard deviation from average is 15 points, so this corresponds to 8.5 standard deviations. What this leaves us with is this: the bell curve for rolling 3d6 does not at all match up with the bell curve for IQ.

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Re: Psion and Sorcerer - Who gets the better deal?
« Reply #83 on: September 24, 2012, 08:01:58 PM »
That's only true if you assume that PCs (by definition heroic) match the normal population's bell curve.
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Re: Psion and Sorcerer - Who gets the better deal?
« Reply #84 on: September 25, 2012, 08:45:58 AM »
anyone who really thinks that you can objectively measure IQ, clearly has a low IQ. ^^

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Re: Psion and Sorcerer - Who gets the better deal?
« Reply #85 on: September 25, 2012, 06:26:08 PM »
anyone who really thinks that you can objectively measure IQ, clearly has a low IQ. ^^
Personally, I think that one can measure IQ within one standard deviation, but that's a 30-point swing depending on a large number of factors. I have, of course, no evidence to confirm this, but I have seen studies that clearly show that the same person will not always measure the same (and from personal experience, I've been measured at 140 as a child (16 years ago) and 125 a year and a half ago)