[3.5] Telflammar Shadowlord's Shadow pounce

[ImperatorK]

Do I have to make the full attack immediately after the teleport or can I do some kind of free or non-action and then attack?

[Tempest]

You're free to do a non-action, as stated by the SRD:

'The only movement you can take during a full attack is a 5-foot step. You may take the step before, after, or between your attacks.'

And a 5-foot step is a non-action.

But you're also capable of using a free or swift action when making a full attack, seeing as drawing an arrow is a free action and allows a bow user to make several attacks with a full attack. If you weren't able to do so, archers wouldn't be able to attack several times a round.

So that's a yes, you 'may' make a full attack action after using Shadow Pounce, and you can 5-foot step either before, between, or after the full attack. Same with free actions, though I'm not entirely certain if you can take a swift action between attacks. I'd guess no to that one though, but it doesn't stop you from using a swift action either before or after.

[ImperatorK]

Except the full attack is part of the teleportation and not a separate, full round action. That's why I'm asking. Also I would not be able to 5-foot step, because teleportation is movement.

[Tempest]

Any time he uses an ability, spell, or effect with the teleportation descriptor (for example, his shadow jump ability), he may execute a full attack upon completion of the teleportation.

'Upon completion' is the key line here, in my world that makes it a seperate action from the teleportation. I'd think it's up to anyone's interpretation, since it doesn't state one way or the other.

Also, nowhere does it say that teleportation is movement. It is a transportation/translocation effect. 'Movement' is making use of anything with a movement speed, like ground speed, flight speed, etc. It's also important to note that leaving a threatened square with a teleportation effect does NOT provoke attacks of opportunity, all kinds of movement that doesn't state otherwise does, thus it stands to reason that a teleportation effect is not the same sort of movement that prohibits a 5-foot step.

You can move 5 feet in any round when you don’t perform any other kind of movement.

You do not 'perform a movement' when using a teleportation/translocation spell/ability, the spell that you cast is what 'moves' you.


My former answer still stands. Feel free to use my interpretation or not, this is what makes the most sense to me.

[ImperatorK]

Teleportation is movement. You move from point A to point B.
I'm going to rule that you can make free, swift or non-actions between the teleportation and the full attack.