Author Topic: [Discussion] Brute Squad discussion thread (Read 71704 times)

Concerned Ninja Citizen · « **Reply #180 on:** November 26, 2012, 12:54:17 AM »

My cohort has Psionic Minor Creation. Selected partly with your character in mind.

zook1shoe · « **Reply #181 on:** November 26, 2012, 01:00:19 AM »

Ooh nice... Nvm then!!!!

Also... Found some of my next potential followers...

A deepspawn (creates possible slaves from dead people) and a mimic (turns into a chemistry set)

Drammor · « **Reply #182 on:** November 26, 2012, 06:25:02 AM »

Winthrop has prepared a pair Bracers of Quick Strike for whoever in our party would like an extra attack after a full attack, 1/day. Are there any takers?

zook1shoe · « **Reply #183 on:** November 26, 2012, 02:16:35 PM »

don't need one

Drammor · « **Reply #184 on:** November 26, 2012, 02:54:24 PM »

VennDygrem might have a use for it, though.

Alternatively, any other Wondrous Item worth up to 1,400 gold.

Or if you prefer, we can work together on item crafting. He's a wizard with Wondrous Items. Market * 0.43125 for actual pricing. However, he is limited to CL 5, so things like gloves of dexterity and gauntlets of ogre power are out, unless you'd also like to pay the surcharge for a wizard to provide the CL. Those particulars have an additional charge of 60 gold. For anything else he makes, it's market * 0.575. So that's...

A&A = Market * 0.575
Etched Runes = Market * 0.575
Potions = Market * 0.575
Scrolls = Market * 0.575
Wands = Market * 0.575
Wondrous Items = Market * 0.43125

zook1shoe · « **Reply #185 on:** November 26, 2012, 04:41:16 PM »

i'd take another pair of drow insignias that are the same as my current one (painless death spell)

620gp each

they're perfect for using against sleeping people

Drammor · « **Reply #186 on:** November 26, 2012, 05:14:14 PM »

~~Is that their normal cost? Are they wondrous items?~~

Found them. What do you say we make each of them 267 gold, 3 silver and 8 copper?

In fact... I'm just going to go over your equipment and eliminate everything I know isn't magical, and adjust the things I can find for warcrafter pricing. And then post the things I'm curious about here. Unless you mind.

These are the things I could help with.

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Concerned Ninja Citizen · « **Reply #187 on:** November 26, 2012, 05:30:14 PM »

If we want to optimize our gear, my character can craft any mundane or alchemical item, so such things can be bought at 1/3 price.

Drammor · « **Reply #188 on:** November 26, 2012, 06:01:54 PM »

I'm not opposed to that, CNC. This is a bloodthirsty tournament run by a LE/NE government, after all.

Unrelatedly, your patch should not be a va Ffion unless you're saying Cornelia owns you.

Ffion is the family name, va is the article indicating that you're an adjunct of the family. Sorry that's not clear, I haven't quite done up her background yet. Not that I'm opposed to Cornelia owning you.

While I was at it, I decided to go down the list and see what I could do for other characters on the team.

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VennDygrem · « **Reply #189 on:** November 26, 2012, 06:09:40 PM »

Actually, you can't have your cohort craft my weapon items, since, per the crafting rules in the SRD "The creator’s caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus of the weapon." So for those items, at least, I must pay full price. Which is still a bargain for what I'm getting out of them. The collision necklace gets me a static +7 to damage on each of my hits (+2 from enhancement, +5 from enchantment), which is pretty nice for the cost. Having it crafted at a lower cost would be very nice, but it is not to be. And the shuriken/gauntlet? That's already cheesy as it is.

Drammor · « **Reply #190 on:** November 26, 2012, 06:54:05 PM »

Oh, I just looked at the cost figure and totaled it up. I didn't even see the other +5. My apologies.

Venn, do you have any interest in turning those boots into boots of elvenkind and the battle charger (boots of the elven battle charger?) for a total of 1,940.63 gold?

zook1shoe · « **Reply #191 on:** November 26, 2012, 07:02:10 PM »

go right ahead.... money is money

Drammor · « **Reply #192 on:** November 26, 2012, 07:17:11 PM »

Well then it looks like you've got a little extra money to play with.

I think you've got 2,722.08 gold left. If you wanted to spend it all on wondrous items, I could make it stretch into 6,311.93 of market valued items.

VennDygrem · « **Reply #193 on:** November 26, 2012, 07:44:49 PM »

Hmm, might not be bad, but it's only 2/day. There are some benefits to saving some money, though I can also contribute extra funds into useful items for the party (wands/etc.)
Also, the cost would be 2371.875, based on your formula, since you need to increase the cost of the less expensive component of a combined item by 1.5 times the price, rather than just adding the cost of the two together unmodified.

Drammor · « **Reply #194 on:** November 26, 2012, 08:03:01 PM »

Still cheaper than the boots of elvenkind without a crafter.

Also, it would appear that Eternal Wands are a special case, since they require Craft Wondrous Item in addition to Craft Wand. Therefore, they get the wondrous item price.

Concerned Ninja Citizen · « **Reply #195 on:** November 26, 2012, 09:59:36 PM »

Quote from: Drammor

Unrelatedly, your patch should not be a va Ffion unless you're saying Cornelia owns you. Ffion is the family name, va is the article indicating that you're an adjunct of the family. Sorry that's not clear, I haven't quite done up her background yet. Not that I'm opposed to Cornelia owning you

Well, I wouldn't be surprised in Cornelia would "own" me, if it came to that... however, for the time being at least, I'll change my insignias to something more appropriate.

Quote from: Drammor

Non-Wondrous Items
+1 Resin Chain Shirt of Light Fortification 718.75 gp
...How much did the cohort's chain shirt cost?

The same. It may end up being light fortification as well. If not, some other +1 ability. Either way, same price.

Quote from: Drammor

Nonmagic Stuff
Assorted Incenses and Candles: 3,750 gp*
*acquired via Winthrop's Mercantile Background perk

Those are self crafted (with XP cost paid from craft reserve.) Does mercantile background still offer a discount in that case? No reason it shouldn't (could help with material sourcing and such), just checking.

I have a fair amount of cash left (more thanks to Winthrop), what discounts can you produce exactly so you don't have to vet everything I buy?

zook1shoe · « **Reply #196 on:** November 26, 2012, 10:30:56 PM »

How much would these each cost u?

Papyrus of Deception (CaD)
Dull Grey Ioun Stone
Silent Portal Disk (FR:Mag)
Hand of the Mage
Artificer's Monocle (MagC)

Drammor · « **Reply #197 on:** November 26, 2012, 11:18:06 PM »

Quote from: Concerned Ninja Citizen on November 26, 2012, 09:59:36 PM

The same. It may end up being light fortification as well. If not, some other +1 ability. Either way, same price.

Then you know what to do with the price of that one.

Quote from: Concerned Ninja Citizen

Those are self crafted (with XP cost paid from craft reserve.) Does mercantile background still offer a discount in that case? No reason it shouldn't (could help with material sourcing and such), just checking.

Two things: Sir P told me we can't use craft reserve for pre-game crafting. And no, mercantile background applies only to things you buy.

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I have a fair amount of cash left (more thanks to Winthrop), what discounts can you produce exactly so you don't have to vet everything I buy?

Arms & Armor = Market price * 0.575
Etched Runes = Market price * 0.575
Potions = Market price * 0.575
Scrolls = Market price * 0.575
Wands = Market price * 0.575
Wondrous Items = Market price * 0.43125
Wondrous items includes eternal wands.

@Zook:
Papyrus of Deception - 862.5 gp
Dull Grey Ioun Stone - 25 gp
Silent Portal Disk - 150.93 gp
Hand of the Mage - 388.13 gp
Artificer's Monocle - 646.88 gp

I can't do anything about the price of the ioun stone because hiring a wizard to help me make one would require a larger surcharge than the price of the original item.

zook1shoe · « **Reply #198 on:** November 26, 2012, 11:53:27 PM »

Another 2073.44gp well spent. Nice!

Concerned Ninja Citizen · « **Reply #199 on:** November 27, 2012, 12:10:02 AM »

Quote from: Drammor

Two things: Sir P told me we can't use craft reserve for pre-game crafting. And no, mercantile background applies only to things you buy.

That's odd. He told me reserve was ok on the most recent page of the OOC thread.

Quote from: Drammor

Discount breakdowns

Awesome, thanks.

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