[Discussion] Brute Squad discussion thread

[zook1shoe]

got those, plus 2 drow insignias and an enveloping pit, and still have more money than before you started crafting stuff :-p

i'm ready, whenever you guys get done

[samnemath]

Yes, discounts!

Ok, bought some extra stuff. I have 1192gp remaining. Any ideas what to do with it? Or anyone in desperate need for extra cash?

Other than that I am ready.

[zook1shoe]

my business would LOVE extra cash 

[samnemath]

my business would LOVE extra cash 

Feel free to take it. I have every thing I need I think.  I will just keep the 192gp for spare change.

[zook1shoe]

really? nice!!

[Drammor]

I might like some of that money for Winthrop, actually. I'm trying to design and create an actual custom item (be reverse-engineering some other stuff) that will give him a decent medium-range weapon in the end.

[zook1shoe]

sure... how much?

[Drammor]

The "ensemble" consists of Arcanist's Gloves that have had the daily charge limit removed, costing 539.06 gold, and a pair of bracers that cast Kelgore's Fire Bolt at CL 3, costing 2328.75 gold. (Totaling 2867.81) Although that it needs to be bracers kind of ruins the "Right Wing of Raziel" idea...

Winthrop has 1609.8 left... and Cornelia has 3,174.25 left. Okay, we should be golden on this end. False alarm.


Edit: Or I could make it a CL 5 wand with 50 charges and it would only cost 2156.25 gold, not have to purchase the gloves, and still save about 75 gold. I think I'll go with that, instead. It should be about 50 charges before it's no longer useful to the party, anyway.

Double Edit: Ehhh. No. I'm greedy. 30 charges. Now Winthrop still has money left without needing to borrow anything from Cornelia and she can still spend some cash on the followers.

[zook1shoe]

lol k

[Drammor]

Scratch this. It turns out I missed a critical phrase in its duration. It's still possible, and very cost effective for what it does, but probably not affordable at 3450 gp.

[zook1shoe]

I'm planning on making several more various drow insignias. Mostly the 24hr+ duration spell ones.

Any good suggestions? Or know of any lists?

[Concerned Ninja Citizen]

Could anyone use a +10 competence bonus on Intimidate checks and a +2 enhancement bonus to Strength? Both come together. You can't take one or the other. I can make it available for 863 gold.

How many of them can you make and what form does it take? Kluz the Marshal cohort and Brozzy the Polar Bear thrall could both potentially benefit from something like that (if nothing else, it's about half the price of Gauntlets of Ogre Power so anyone who likes Str might as well go for it.)

[Drammor]

I'm planning on making several more various drow insignias. Mostly the 24hr+ duration spell ones.

Any good suggestions? Or know of any lists?

Sorry, Zook. I have no idea. I've been trying to power through making my followers so we can get this show on the road. On the plus side, my followers now shed a veritable aura of extreme defense. Allies within 15 feet of Natali get concealment with 20% miss chance against ranged attacks, Tink gives half his natural armor bonus to allies adjacent to him as an AC and Ref save bonus, and Uru can give an ally adjacent to his target a free attack by hitting it with a ranged touch attack that does no damage.

Edit: Oh, and Revan gives his shield bonus to his adjacent allies, and Cornelia knows exactly how many hit points every living thing within 60 feet of her has. And can use that ability to ferret out invisible creatures.

How many of them can you make and what form does it take? Kluz the Marshal cohort and Brozzy the Polar Bear thrall could both potentially benefit from something like that (if nothing else, it's about half the price of Gauntlets of Ogre Power so anyone who likes Str might as well go for it.)

It can take just about any form. There's a ranger spell called Towering Oak that gives those things, and I can make a continuous item of it for that price. As long as I'm funded, I can make them forever.

[zook1shoe]

i found something in the handbooks for just PHB spells, and i'm just taking time to go through my spell description uber-list.

found one spell that turns a 1lb non-magical object /2 CL into gold for 24 hours, as a 7th-level spell. was thinking of saving that for a later idea 

use it on something SUPER light but very volumous, like cork

[zook1shoe]

he's letting us do custom items?

[VennDygrem]

The drow house insignia I usually buy for many of my characters is of Primal Instinct (Dragon Magic). +5 competence bonus to Initiative and Survival checks, 24 hour duration, 2nd level ranger spell or 3rd level druid/sorcerer spell. It doesn't specify it must be one type of spell or another, so most DM's allow me to use the Ranger level 2 version of the spell, for 3300gp, but even the level 3 version is a good investment at 8200. With crafting cost reductions, it's even better.

[Concerned Ninja Citizen]

Primal Hunter, from the same book, is a Ranger 1 spell that gives you bonuses to climb jump and swim (irrelevant) and when active at the same time as Primal Instinct gives you Uncanny Dodge. As a rogue you've probably got that already but it might be worth asking if two instances stack to give IUD.

he's letting us do custom items?

There've been a few already. Stark Industries is crafting custom Enveloping Pits without the relic power. I think I saw the odd other custom item on a couple teams.

[zook1shoe]

thanks. i actually just found the Primal spells and added Instinct to my list cuz of the initiative bonus

*grins* i found Wall of Stone, and the Trapsmith gets it at 3rd-level 

[VennDygrem]

Trapsmith is a wellspring of brokenly-low-level spells. As is Runescarred Berserker.

[zook1shoe]

also i noticed that how the Drow Insignias are worded, you seem avoid any material components, sacrifice, XP cost, focus, etc. you just "use" the magical effect, by activating the item

A drow house insignia (spell) contains
a single minor magical effect that can be
used once per day, usually a 1st-, 2nd-, or
3rd-level spell, ...