Things that make you LoL! (part 2)

[brujon]

Hmm, you're forgetting that a Religion has to be recognized by the State before it can get those benefits... If the State doesn't recognize a religious movement as a formal Religion, then it's just a cult, and while it may not be forbidden, won't actually get the benefit of this law.

Even so, i suspect it will be taken down soon.

[InnaBinder]

Sorry, bhu: http://www.gifbay.com/gif/n_n-37806/

[Kuroimaken]

Hmm, you're forgetting that a Religion has to be recognized by the State before it can get those benefits... If the State doesn't recognize a religious movement as a formal Religion, then it's just a cult, and while it may not be forbidden, won't actually get the benefit of this law.

Even so, i suspect it will be taken down soon.

The process is different for every government, though.

Ours will just take a flat tax of 421,27 royals, thank you very much, congratulationsyou'renowapriest.

[wotmaniac]

This keeps getting funnier and funnier the more I watch it:

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Thanks for the site link, Inna.   

[bhu]

Sorry, bhu: http://www.gifbay.com/gif/n_n-37806/

Poor critter

[dman11235]

Hmm, you're forgetting that a Religion has to be recognized by the State before it can get those benefits... If the State doesn't recognize a religious movement as a formal Religion, then it's just a cult, and while it may not be forbidden, won't actually get the benefit of this law.

Even so, i suspect it will be taken down soon.

I'm not sure if the Rastafari Movement is recognized or not, I never thought about that.  Either way, you can bet that the people who want this law in KY are the kind of people who don't want anything that's remotely connected to drugs to be allowed, regardless of this law.  Or any religion other than "traditional" religions.

PREEDIT: After some digging, I am pretty sure that Rastas would be protected by this law in this wording.  Because the only recognition is a tax thing, and not an actual recognition, all of those religions would be applicable.  The law is past the house and senate, and the only two things in its way are the governor and potentially the courts.  If this law was happening in someplace else, like, say, Maine, then I'd be a good bit less worried, but then again, Maine would never bring something this stupid up....Another thing about the law: KY does not have jurisdiction over the federal government, so all federal laws would still be enforced.  From that perspective, all the murder and drugs and whatnot would still be fair game for prosecution.  And in reality this law will do very little.  Especially if the state continues to enforce at a federal level instead of turning a blind eye to religious illegal activity.

[ariasderros]

Hmm, you're forgetting that a Religion has to be recognized by the State before it can get those benefits...

I'm not sure if the Rastafari Movement is recognized or not, I never thought about that.
Another thing about the law: KY does not have jurisdiction over the federal government, so all federal laws would still be enforced. 

First, after you mentioned this the first time, I linked to a whole list of religions that use, or are about the use of cannabis. Second, most drug use, and even most small scale production, are state level law. It's only when the numbers get big, whether dollars or weight, that it becomes federal.

Also, while certain reservations can already use peyote for their religious practices, this would open up more people to its use. To say nothing of ibogain and others.

[kitep]

Let's not forget Pastafarians believe in piracy.  Lake Cumberland, anyone?

[SorO_Lost]

We should invent our own religion and name it "The Government of the United States", that way at least one organization with that name knows what the hell they are doing.

[dman11235]

Hmm, you're forgetting that a Religion has to be recognized by the State before it can get those benefits...

I'm not sure if the Rastafari Movement is recognized or not, I never thought about that.
Another thing about the law: KY does not have jurisdiction over the federal government, so all federal laws would still be enforced. 

First, after you mentioned this the first time, I linked to a whole list of religions that use, or are about the use of cannabis. Second, most drug use, and even most small scale production, are state level law. It's only when the numbers get big, whether dollars or weight, that it becomes federal.

Also, while certain reservations can already use peyote for their religious practices, this would open up more people to its use. To say nothing of ibogain and others.

First, I am aware of that, but this was specifically about the Rastafari Movement, sorry for the confusion.  Second, in the US, there's two levels of law, federal and state.  The feds can and will prosecute anyone close to dealing level.  That's "possession with intent to sell" and the amount that triggers it is really low.  Finally, the various Reservations are not technically part of the US but are at the same time depending on who you ask.  So really, they aren't required to follow all the laws of the rest of the US but kind of are....it's a tricky situation.

[altpersona]

asaik, the feds dont a have a proper law enforcement arm. they have plenty of people with guns and badges but they have specific regulations.

if the local popo dosnt arrest you, the feds have a hard time getting you prosecuted. the pot states are proving this out. dea can raid a shop here and there but they cant patrol the streets for simple possession.

i dont think this thing will hold up in the supreme court, but till its tested things will get weird.

in regular misdemeanor cases the local prosecutors office dosnt have to do much work on any give case. the case volume demands they keep things quick. once you introduce the burden of showing the states interest vs. documented religious practices, i doubt they can devote the resources to make it worth while.

in this county simple possession of pot gets you 8 days in county jail, the trial is quick, people take the days instead of risking a trial for more. now you know you have a leg to stand on and you have decent shot of a jury letting you walk. prosecutors cant afford to loose easy cases or waste the money and time. its not like we are rolling in money for frivolous persecutions.

2 miles away across the river in bhu-land, i think simple possession is a 100$ fine  and im not sure its arrestable by its self. the counties make more money off a speeding ticket than possession.

[bhu]

asaik, the feds dont a have a proper law enforcement arm. they have plenty of people with guns and badges but they have specific regulations.

if the local popo dosnt arrest you, the feds have a hard time getting you prosecuted. the pot states are proving this out. dea can raid a shop here and there but they cant patrol the streets for simple possession.

i dont think this thing will hold up in the supreme court, but till its tested things will get weird.

in regular misdemeanor cases the local prosecutors office dosnt have to do much work on any give case. the case volume demands they keep things quick. once you introduce the burden of showing the states interest vs. documented religious practices, i doubt they can devote the resources to make it worth while.

in this county simple possession of pot gets you 8 days in county jail, the trial is quick, people take the days instead of risking a trial for more. now you know you have a leg to stand on and you have decent shot of a jury letting you walk. prosecutors cant afford to loose easy cases or waste the money and time. its not like we are rolling in money for frivolous persecutions.

2 miles away across the river in bhu-land, i think simple possession is a 100$ fine  and im not sure its arrestable by its self. the counties make more money off a speeding ticket than possession.

It depends on how much you're caught with.  It's 150 bucks only if it's a small amount (I used to work with lots of potheads).  Once you get up to a pound or so it's felony time.

I think that law will be tested fairly quickly, by trolls if no one else.  "But officer my religion says I'm only allowed to buttfuck fat women if I do it on the courthouse square at noon.  Honest."

[ariasderros]

I think that law will be tested fairly quickly, by trolls if no one else.  "But officer my religion says[...]"

[...] you're forgetting that a Religion has to be recognized by the State before it can get those benefits[...]

[bhu]

I can get recognition I just have to be good nuff at bullshittin'.  Or hire someone who is. 

[ariasderros]

I can get recognition I just have to be good nuff at bullshittin'.  Or hire someone who is. 

Mel Brooks?

[Jackinthegreen]

http://www.wowhead.com/item=95180#. has the best screenshot ever for a WoW item.  It's even been approved by the WoWhead staff.

[Kuroimaken]

Nightly faceplant exercise

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[Amechra]

I found this old thing.

I performed the action referred to as LOL.

[brujon]

Now THIS video is relevant to the discussion about that religious law

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZonKALmiSXo

Wanna bet every gun owner will want to convert over to the Sikh faith?

[Kuroimaken]

So the weather's been getting a little chilly lately. I'm asked if I don't want a blanket for my bed when my room is being straightened out.

"Why would I need one? You forget I'm a man whose passions burn hotter than the heart of a thousand suns!"