SLA question

[dumah87]

Could SLAs be dispelled?

I ask because of this:

Divine Defiance feat :
"You can spend one of your turn or rebuke undead attempts as an immediate action to counter a spell or spelllike effect."

and

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040413a
All About Spell-Like Abilities (Part One)
"A spell-like ability can be dispelled. All the usual limitations of dispel effects apply to dispels used against spell-like abilities. For example, a spell-like ability with an instantaneous duration cannot be dispelled, and the dispel user must make a successful caster level check to dispel any spell-like ability with a longer duration."

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040420a
All About Spell-Like Abilities (Part Two)
A spell-like ability cannot be used as a counterspell, and it is not subject to counterspells. A counterspell involves recognizing a spell as it is being cast, then quickly altering that same spell so as to create an opposite effect that cancels out the original spell. A spell-like ability is essentially hardwired into its user's psyche, and its power is released mentally. The process is sufficiently different from spellcasting so it that doesn't allow a foe to identify the spell-like ability, and a counterspell cannot interfere with the spell-like ability's magical energy as it can with a spell. As noted earlier, a spell-like ability is subject to dispelling (provided the spell it duplicates is subject to dispelling). When a spell-like ability can be dispelled (as most of them are) one can effectively counter them with a dispel magic spell. While spell-like abilities are not normally subject to counterspells, dispel magic is not really a counterspell. When you use dispel magic as a counterspell, what you're really doing is casting a quick, targeted dispel effect at the correct moment to negate the enemy spell and not creating an opposite magical effect that cancels your enemy's spell.

I can't get over it 

[betrayor]

Counterspell is entirely different from dispelling....
A spell-like ability can be dispelled but it can not be counterspelled.....


http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/castingSpells.htm#counterspells

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelMagic.htm

[betrayor]

Divine defiance allows  you to  counter a spell-like ability when you normally couldn't...

[nijineko]

counterspelling uses the same (or in certain cases opposite) spell to block the casting. sort of like wave canceling by using the opposite wave.

dispelling uses the dispel spell which generally cancels, negates, or suppresses targeted magic. i imagine it to be like creating a mini dead spot and starving the magical effect of mana, or something.

[ksbsnowowl]

dispelling uses the dispel spell which generally cancels, negates, or suppresses targeted magic.

Dispelling can also use an opposite spell, in certain cases.  In these situations the proper spell auto-succeed at dispelling; there is no caster level check.

For example:

Daylight counters or dispels any darkness spell of equal or lower level, such as darkness.

[nijineko]

dispelling uses the dispel spell which generally cancels, negates, or suppresses targeted magic.

Dispelling can also use an opposite spell, in certain cases.  In these situations the proper spell auto-succeed at dispelling; there is no caster level check.

For example:

Daylight counters or dispels any darkness spell of equal or lower level, such as darkness.

that's what i thought i was saying. i was even thinking of that exact spell when i posted.

i'm really not having much luck stating my point in a fashion which makes sense to others lately.     imperatork is tromping all over me for a poorly worded comment in another thread. 


sigh.

[dumah87]

Counterspell is entirely different from dispelling....
A spell-like ability can be dispelled but it can not be counterspelled.....


http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/castingSpells.htm#counterspells

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dispelMagic.htm

You're right, I read it wrongly...
I appreciate your help!