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[Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« on: December 04, 2012, 10:26:27 PM »
The newest blog entry has changed monks ki pool ability, as well as their flurry of blows, and the amulet of mighty fists' cost.
Check it out for yourself. http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5le61?Monkeying-Around

This makes the class that little bit better, and the amulet that much more affordable.
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Re: [Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 12:51:07 AM »
Let's see...
1) Undoing a pointless and ill-thought nerf.
2) An actual buff in certain uncommon (though not as rare as I first thought) situations. Kinda disappears a few levels later when you just get the DR-bypassing +3 enhancement bonus, though.
3) A buff, although you still wind up paying twice as much for your weapons with a lower cap on the maximum effect.

I'm not going to look upon this with disdain, although I'm disappointed that it's all very minor. I'm not as familiar with the PF Monk to comment on how this changes things, but for the 3.5 Monk it wouldn't really make a difference.

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Re: [Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 02:39:20 AM »
Everything Garryl said.  Very minor changes and correction of that abominable call on flurry, monk is still the weakest class by far and needs a lot more work, and AoMF is still unfairly priced and body slotted.

Actually, the price change might be kind of broken for monsters / druids / etc....  it was already a good buy if you had several natural weapons, now it's even cheaper.

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Re: [Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 08:02:43 AM »
Unexpected, but pretty welcome. I wouldn't sweat it about druids though, they can get their own natural weapon enhancements fairly easily. The Summoner's Eidolon might be another matter.

I guess the noise got too much and they had to fix it.
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Re: [Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 08:27:37 AM »
I'm tempted to call a betting pool on how long it will be before SKR revokes the un-nerfs. Personally, I give it a week or two.
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Re: [Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 12:25:27 PM »
I'm tempted to call a betting pool on how long it will be before SKR revokes the un-nerfs. Personally, I give it a week or two.
I thought basically the same thing. What a douche.
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Re: [Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2012, 06:24:38 PM »
I'm tempted to call a betting pool on how long it will be before SKR revokes the un-nerfs. Personally, I give it a week or two.
Revoke? Nah. It's too public a change, I think. He'll probably find another class ability to attack instead.

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Re: [Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2012, 06:38:22 PM »
Not much left FOR him to undermine in the class though.
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Re: [Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2012, 08:13:54 AM »
Wisdom to AC and stunning fist :P

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Re: [Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2012, 10:23:23 AM »
Wisdom to AC and stunning fist :P
Movement speed and slow fall. Perhaps Diamond Body and Soul.

He'll probably go more subtly around doing it, by introducing yet more very bad archetypes.

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Re: [Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2012, 10:41:41 AM »
Wisdom to AC and stunning fist :P
You lose Wis to AC when flat-footed and Stunning Fist only works on humanoids.
For movement speed, the bonus speed only counts once a round even if you double move. Slow Fall can't be used if you're holding anything. Ki strike takes a swift action to turn on because:
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Each of these powers is activated as a swift action

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Re: [Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2012, 11:51:34 AM »
Wisdom to AC and stunning fist :P
You lose Wis to AC when flat-footed and Stunning Fist only works on humanoids.
For movement speed, the bonus speed only counts once a round even if you double move. Slow Fall can't be used if you're holding anything. Ki strike takes a swift action to turn on because:
Quote from: PfSRD
Each of these powers is activated as a swift action
Having had experience with SKR before... those are hypothetical nerfs, right? Not stuff he has already done?

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Re: [Pathfinder] Monks and Amulet of Mighty Fists got some loving
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2012, 08:11:32 PM »
Wisdom to AC and stunning fist :P
You lose Wis to AC when flat-footed and Stunning Fist only works on humanoids.
For movement speed, the bonus speed only counts once a round even if you double move. Slow Fall can't be used if you're holding anything. Ki strike takes a swift action to turn on because:
Quote from: PfSRD
Each of these powers is activated as a swift action
Having had experience with SKR before... those are hypothetical nerfs, right? Not stuff he has already done?
They're hypothetical, but I wouldn't be surprised to see any of them from him.