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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #440 on: May 31, 2013, 08:41:24 PM »
Yes, you get one opportunity action per combatants turn as long as the trigger is met. So in your case. these two HGs were just marked by you and they shift via formation strike which means they meet the trigger for blurred step. Coupled with your Harrying Step your shifts for blurred step now become teleports.
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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #441 on: May 31, 2013, 08:44:35 PM »
To also clarify the opportunity action is the teleports. You wont get an attack of opportunity on top of it using blurred step.
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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #442 on: May 31, 2013, 08:46:41 PM »
Gotcha'

From my last question, clarification:  The deeper meaning to that question is, since after the first attack the hobgoblin shifted, wouldn't that trigger a teleportation and opportunity for Gamesh to attack before the second enemy had a chance to swing at (and so soundly crit) him?

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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #443 on: May 31, 2013, 09:02:25 PM »
And, AND!  Since teleportation results in no attacks of opportunity, wouldn't the first one be the only one to get it?!  I have studied quantum entanglement to a great extent and somehow D&D has made teleportation complicated...

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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #444 on: May 31, 2013, 09:33:32 PM »
Technically depending on where you teleported to after the first one shifted, yes, you could potentially avoid getting smacked soundly by a flail. but I believe you would need to end the teleport adjacent to the enemy. So the second attacker could get his attack in still depending on where you end up.

That's why I put the turn for both in but added the disclaimer that I would likely have to change the seconds action to accommodate your teleporting around and such.

Shifts and teleports do not provoke attacks of opportunity. These guys are using their standard actions on their turns to hit you with formation strike. The first's attack missed his shift triggers your blurred step.

Best suggestion here is post your op action against the firsts shift and I will change the second enemies action then you can do the op action against the second if warranted. Next round I think I will post one enemy at a time and allow you to react.
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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #445 on: May 31, 2013, 10:20:27 PM »
That makes sense.  I think I just needed some clarification for future reference.  I'm noobin' it up with this race/class/4.0 combo.

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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #446 on: June 01, 2013, 06:37:31 PM »
Kept the moves of the hobgoblins as is on this. While you are teleporting but you are still limited to 1 square still to any adjacent square to the enemy. So to get to E6, you would blurred step teleport 1 square and get you to like F5 following Xnes. Then when Zomb shifts you can get to E6 using the next instance of blurred step teleporting triggered from Zomb's shift. No need to alter your post or anything it all works. This way you are keeping pace with them.

Looks like Dalanath, Dunor, and then Soff'a up next.
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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #447 on: June 01, 2013, 06:46:55 PM »
The description for Harrying Step is:

"When using Blurred Step you can teleport to any square adjacent to the triggering enemy instead of shifting."

Would that not mean that the teleport can be more than one space as long as it is still next to the marked enemy?

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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #448 on: June 01, 2013, 07:00:43 PM »
Researching, you may just be correct on this one.
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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #449 on: June 01, 2013, 07:58:25 PM »
Found this HERE. This was not originally about this but it does explain that there is no distance restriction.

I can see how this makes sense even if it does make Blurred Step way way more powerful at the cost of one simple feat. So we will go with the no limit as long as you end next to the triggering enemy.
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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #450 on: June 01, 2013, 11:10:49 PM »
I'm not a big fan of playing a 4E rogue but man can I stab things!

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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #451 on: June 02, 2013, 11:48:09 AM »
I'm not a big fan of playing a 4E rogue but man can I stab things!

Ha!  Nice!

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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #452 on: June 04, 2013, 08:02:42 AM »
Venn, apologies about the map. Never intended for all the party to start way off the map and have to move onto it during combat, but the best laid plans...

Anyhow, I meant that you all are started 10 squares off the map from K6. Another mistake of mine was referencing where Dalanath was at but he had since moved.

You can double move which will give you 12 squares of movement. You could also run, which adds the 2 squares to your movement. This would give you 16 squares at the cost of giving your enemies a combat advantage. These would get you further into the room. Since Wardens have to be adjacent to an enemy to mark them you don't have much you can do with your minor action this round.
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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #453 on: June 04, 2013, 08:14:38 AM »
Sk4mpE, to clarify you want to move Soff'a right next to Thespias on the map and wait for an enemy to come to you? I am a bit confused by the readied action because of the trigger you selected for it. If you ended your move next to an enemy, you would just use Booming blade as your standard action, you wouldn't need to ready an action for it.

Readied actions are meant to be used for waiting for a particular trigger to happen before you will act again. Standing at M5 it is unlikely an enemy is going to get to that position in the next round or two.
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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #454 on: June 04, 2013, 08:28:10 AM »
Alright, then I guess double-movement leaves me at I6 for now.

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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #455 on: June 04, 2013, 04:58:36 PM »
MC, I guess I need to study readied actions more.  I have edited my post to make the turn legal.  I am now at F8.

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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #456 on: June 08, 2013, 10:42:29 AM »
Where did the combat advantage come from? 

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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #457 on: June 08, 2013, 01:57:27 PM »
Actually, he gets it for two reasons. But I also missed his minus 5 to attack since he ran. So I think he may have missed.
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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #458 on: June 08, 2013, 02:05:50 PM »
Fixed it.

So to elaborate on the Combat advantage. The first reason is you ran last round to get to G5 which give enemies a combat advantage until the start of your next turn. Pg 291 PHB1

The second reason he would get one is due to being in directly opposite squares of an Ally. Pg 279 and 280 PHB1. this isn't readily apparent yet because I have not put the updted map up showing Kegt's location after his turn. Was waiting to post Tkanz and Xer first before putting it up since those are next any how.
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Re: Across the Table (OOC Discussion)
« Reply #459 on: June 08, 2013, 02:07:52 PM »
Back to staining the fence for me  :(
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