Author Topic: [3.P] Int, Wis or Cha for bonus Action Points? (Read 7397 times)

ImperatorK · « **on:** December 30, 2012, 03:28:47 PM »

As the title says. Which mental stat would be best for bonus APs and why?

"None" is not an option. Stats other than Int, Wis or Cha are also not options. What classes or what build is used is also irrelevant, because this houserule is made regardless of that, in a vacuum, for future games. You have to pick one. I'm not interested in opinions about the houserule itself.

Solo · « **Reply #1 on:** December 30, 2012, 03:29:26 PM »

Intismadom

nijineko · « **Reply #2 on:** December 30, 2012, 03:53:24 PM »

none of the above.

we use random fate to give action points. during the character creation process we grant extra points for rolling doubles as a holdover from some really old game we used to play. during game play, we grant a bonus action point for every critical failure that has a meaningful effect on plot and combat.

seems to work out, and makes it feel more like the workings of fate and/or chance, plus sweetens the bitter pit of failure a bit.

ImperatorK · « **Reply #3 on:** December 30, 2012, 04:13:23 PM »

There are only three options - Int, Wis or Cha.

nijineko · « **Reply #4 on:** December 30, 2012, 04:40:56 PM »

the phrasing of your question failed to preclude 'none' as a valid answer. which it is.

i was attempting to be polite. without greater detail as to why you think that action points should be somehow increased by a mental stat, i honestly think it is a stupid idea. one of my reasons for thinking it is stupid is that it will tend to widen the already unnecessarily wide gap between caster and semi-casters compared to non-casters. i only think it is stupid if you leave it unsupported by your reasoning. i will likely change my opinion once you reveal why you think this is even necessary.

ImperatorK · « **Reply #5 on:** December 30, 2012, 04:53:38 PM »

I don't care what you think of the idea and it's irrelevant to the thread.
The OP doesn't say "Should mental stats give bonus APs?". It say "Which mental stat would be best for bonus APs and why?"

FlaminCows · « **Reply #6 on:** December 30, 2012, 05:03:08 PM »

Charisma. It is the weakest of the three, and also the least-defined. The only thing action points represent in in-universe terms is luck, and I think I've seen luck bonuses keyed off of Charisma before, but not Intelligence or Wisdom.

dipolartech · « **Reply #7 on:** December 30, 2012, 05:06:10 PM »

Well I have heard that "Charisma is the ability of the Sorcerer to convince reality that he can in fact cast magic for no other reason but that he wants to."

BearsAreBrown · « **Reply #8 on:** December 30, 2012, 05:16:30 PM »

Is, 'the highest one,' an option? That way smart guys aren't worse then cool guys who aren't worse then wise guys.

ImperatorK · « **Reply #9 on:** December 30, 2012, 05:19:47 PM »

Quote from: ImperatorK on December 30, 2012, 04:13:23 PM

There are only three options - Int, Wis or Cha.

FlaminCows · « **Reply #10 on:** December 30, 2012, 06:16:42 PM »

Does that mean I win the thread?

ImperatorK · « **Reply #11 on:** December 30, 2012, 06:29:27 PM »

There are no win conditions. So no.

nijineko · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2013, 11:14:07 PM »

the answer is still none.

ImperatorK · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2013, 11:59:53 PM »

It isn't. Did you just rehash an old thread just to troll me? Lol. say hello to my Ignore list.

Halinn · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2013, 01:12:08 AM »

Quote from: ImperatorK on January 31, 2013, 11:59:53 PM

It isn't. Did you just rehash an old thread just to troll me? Lol. say hello to my Ignore list.

This thread is just pre-crash, so your response might have been new to nijineko.

ImperatorK · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2013, 01:15:17 AM »

Doesn't matter. He shouldn't post if he has nothing useful to add.

RedWarlock · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2013, 01:24:19 AM »

Charisma, definitely. Aside from skills, it has no affect on any basic derived numbers. Casting can make cha useful, overblown even in the case of a paladin, butif you're outside these highly specific uses, Charisma has no effect on a character whatsoever.

RobbyPants · « **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2013, 09:10:30 AM »

Quote from: ImperatorK on December 30, 2012, 03:28:47 PM

As the title says. Which mental stat would be best for bonus APs and why?

"None" is not an option. Stats other than Int, Wis or Cha are also not options. What classes or what build is used is also irrelevant, because this houserule is made regardless of that, in a vacuum, for future games. You have to pick one. I'm not interested in opinions about the houserule itself.

If you're going to leave the obvious correct answer out of the available choices, then the new correct answer become whatever you want it to be. Seriously. Who do you want to be better? Wizards, divine casters, or sorcerers? Once you've decided that, you have your answer.

Of those three choice, I'd lean toward Charisma, solely because sorcerers are weaker than the "core three", and Cha is the least useful of those stats for non-casters.

Tempest · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2013, 05:15:00 PM »

Charisma, it is often used as the attribute that defines the 'strength of soul', as seen most obviously in incorporeal/some undead bonus HP, deflection bonus from various thematic abilities, and of course the Sorcerer casting.

betrayor · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2013, 05:42:08 PM »

Both thematically and for balance's sake the best option is Charisma.....

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Author Topic: [3.P] Int, Wis or Cha for bonus Action Points? (Read 7397 times)