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radmelon
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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Reply #20 on:
November 17, 2011, 07:13:28 PM »
Well, from my experiences, I'ts still quite MAD, needing CHA in addition to str, dex, con, and wis. It's also unclear on what role it wants to be, not having significant damage output or debuffing ability.
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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November 17, 2011, 09:26:53 PM »
Thats one of the reasons I made the Deadly Ego Mutation and Kung Fu Mystic Feat. I guess I just assumed a lot of people would be taking them.
Optionally I could give it static bonuses instead of stat based ones.
Would ful BAB help?
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radmelon
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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Reply #22 on:
November 17, 2011, 09:48:59 PM »
Very.
Also, if you're expecting everyone to get those abilities, why not make them part of the class itself?
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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Reply #23 on:
November 17, 2011, 10:51:10 PM »
Deadly Ego is part of the class. the other is a Chaos Feat, which you can take right from 1st level.
I guess the weak point is that it parodies the monk class after all
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radmelon
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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Reply #24 on:
November 17, 2011, 10:58:06 PM »
Point. But they still are optional, which can lead to oversights.
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veekie
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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November 18, 2011, 05:44:02 AM »
Other than the MAD, one thing I can see is probably the lack of higher level-fitting mutations. Maybe start up a Greater Mutation progression at 10th?
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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Reply #26 on:
November 18, 2011, 04:11:37 PM »
I hadn't quite finished working mutations out so that's easily done.
Getting rid of MAD is gonna be a redesign though. Or I can go the clumsy route and make more Mutations/CHaos Feats.
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radmelon
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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November 18, 2011, 04:38:44 PM »
Yeah, clumsy isn't the way to go.
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veekie
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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Reply #28 on:
November 18, 2011, 06:51:33 PM »
Streamlining the stat requirements is a must. Its already a melee class, so it starts off with 3 required stats, so at most, it should be using one mental. It can't afford more.
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Uncle Kittie
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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Reply #29 on:
November 18, 2011, 07:26:11 PM »
I could make the ac bonus cha and change kung fu mystic feat to something else, but that doesnt change things much
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Uncle Kittie
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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Reply #30 on:
November 20, 2011, 04:38:55 AM »
How about if i change the ac bonus to a luck or circumstance bonus based off cha modifier?
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veekie
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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November 20, 2011, 05:33:56 AM »
Luck sounds good-ish.
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Uncle Kittie
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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Reply #32 on:
November 21, 2011, 04:54:49 AM »
modified it so theyre purely cha now as far as mental stats go (read AC Bonus and Monk in the class description).
so whats next?
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veekie
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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Reply #33 on:
November 21, 2011, 05:13:28 AM »
Greater mutations at higher levels could be a good fit. They do seem to have the capacity for mutating beyond the merely physical aspects.
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Procrastination is the thief of time; Year after year it steals, till all are fled,
And to the mercies of a moment leaves; The vast concerns of an eternal scene.
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Uncle Kittie
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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November 23, 2011, 04:39:19 AM »
I intend to do those, I was thinking more of stuff for radmelon as he is now at 7th level. Giving it full BAB would help, but if I do so should I lower one of the saves?
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radmelon
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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November 23, 2011, 10:08:38 PM »
Full BaB isn't worth all that much. Might still be a good idea. I dunno lol.
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Uncle Kittie
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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Reply #36 on:
November 24, 2011, 02:21:03 AM »
btw has u updated character sheet?
now i need to think about what kung fu mystic does..
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radmelon
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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November 24, 2011, 11:04:08 PM »
Not yet. I was planning on doing it this weekend.
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Uncle Kittie
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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Reply #38 on:
November 26, 2011, 03:05:55 AM »
ok, any thoughts on advanced mutations? Specifically ones you;d like to see?
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radmelon
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Re: Revised Class: Chaos Monk
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November 27, 2011, 01:11:33 AM »
Horrifying, disfiguring things. Things inspired by the ozodrin, for example.
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Revised Class: Chaos Monk