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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #600 on: November 07, 2012, 04:56:02 PM »
I wish I could find it but there was a study showing that no party has ever shrunk spending.  When republicans were in power they gutted social programs to feed the military, and when democrats are in power they reverse that trend.

Studies, books, and other materials are out there.  I was just reading some the other day showing that despite on the small government propaganda Reagan only slowed the growth of government compared to others and did not really cut anything. 

If I come across it again soon I try and remember to post info for you.

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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #601 on: November 07, 2012, 05:36:31 PM »
http://goptears.tumblr.com/

Republicans, near and far
Don't know where your voters are.
Cry directly in this jar.
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Sip sippin' on GOP Tears.
Sip sip sippin' on GOP Tears.
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #602 on: November 07, 2012, 05:42:09 PM »
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #603 on: November 07, 2012, 06:01:18 PM »
Bye-bye Assholes!  A victory for sanity everywhere!

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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #604 on: November 07, 2012, 06:14:26 PM »

Wait ...  :hmm ... did somebody say something ... (cough-ffffff) ... about Cheetos ??
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #605 on: November 07, 2012, 06:40:37 PM »
I hate people so much.

my fiance just unfriended an old high school acquaintance for this exact thing last night
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #606 on: November 07, 2012, 06:44:16 PM »
Racist dumbasses on Twitter need to realize that their lack of anonymity will come back to bite them in the ass.

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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #607 on: November 07, 2012, 06:58:33 PM »
One of the comments on that article showed a list of them who are competing for college athletic scholarships...
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #608 on: November 07, 2012, 07:22:08 PM »
my prediction

2016 (assuming we are still on this board... )

Chris Christie (R-NJ) v Joe Manchin (D-WV)

barring one of them dont screw the pooch.
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #609 on: November 07, 2012, 07:37:28 PM »
Out of curiosity, has anyone from the American stock of our users thought about voting for someone outside the big two? Or perhaps even done so?
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #610 on: November 07, 2012, 07:50:06 PM »
Thought about it, didn't.  Although I could have attempted to give a third party a better view in IN.  That's a good idea, actually.  Anyone in a hardcore state like mine can vote for 3rd party without consequence!  The most that can happen is that the third party gets votes and recognition!
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #611 on: November 07, 2012, 07:53:11 PM »
i know a few irl that voted for gary johnson.
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #612 on: November 07, 2012, 07:55:31 PM »
Out of curiosity, has anyone from the American stock of our users thought about voting for someone outside the big two? Or perhaps even done so?

Gary Johnson is now the most successful Libertarian candidate ever at just over 1 million votes nationwide.  The most successful third party period was Ross Perot at 19 million.  Even now rumors circulate that the small vote he got so spooked the main parties he was told if he ran again he got a bullet in the head

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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #613 on: November 07, 2012, 08:07:30 PM »
I've been reading about Gary Johnson and how it could be good if he got at least 5% of the votes... What would it change if he reached that figure? Did he reach it? In Brazil, no news coverage even MENTION Gary Johnson.
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #614 on: November 07, 2012, 08:23:16 PM »
5% would have been 5 million...

if they had got the 5, then the next time around the gov would have paid for some campaign costs.
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #615 on: November 07, 2012, 08:26:14 PM »
i know a few irl that voted for gary johnson.

Can't say I voted for him. He wasn't even on my state's ballot.
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #616 on: November 07, 2012, 09:13:43 PM »
Out of curiosity, has anyone from the American stock of our users thought about voting for someone outside the big two? Or perhaps even done so?

Gary Johnson is now the most successful Libertarian candidate ever at just over 1 million votes nationwide.  The most successful third party period was Ross Perot at 19 million.  Even now rumors circulate that the small vote he got so spooked the main parties he was told if he ran again he got a bullet in the head

Luvs dem conspiracy theorists...
The popularity of people outside those parties does scare the big two. Why do you think they went to such extremes to keep Nader out of the debates back in 1992? (Or was it another election?)

If you vote for either of the two big ones, it's your fault you get stuck with their shit. It's that simple.
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #617 on: November 07, 2012, 09:31:37 PM »
A first past the post system tends to having two parties.  That's the way of things.  The wiki article on it isn't bad:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting

Assuming there is an actual contest, a voter has every incentive to vote for one of the major parties. 

So, this: 
If you vote for either of the two big ones, it's your fault you get stuck with their shit. It's that simple.
is ridiculous and needlessly inflammatory.  It's like blaming US voters for using dollar bills. 

That being said, due to the way politics and voting works in America, as opposed to say Britain, elected officials tend to cultivate personal constituencies.  And, b/c there is an overwhelming incentive as a politician to join one of the two major parties, the parties tend to be very big tents (although the Republican Party may have proven too small of one in certain key ways).  Which is to say, a Republican (or Democrat) in one state may, and often do, vary quite a bit from a Republican (Democrat) in a different state or even a different district. 

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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #618 on: November 07, 2012, 09:33:15 PM »
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Re: Vote 2012 ... (whiteknuckling the last few days)
« Reply #619 on: November 07, 2012, 09:38:19 PM »
And then there's Nate Silver and his exact prediction of the states.
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