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Need help consolidating spells/powers lists
« on: April 24, 2013, 07:13:18 PM »
One of my players in my upcoming campaign is a little overwhelmed with the task of putting together his spells/powers list for his character.
Because of the sheer volume, I wouldn't imagine asking for defined list; rather, what I'm looking for is specific strategies for filling said lists.

Here's the character:
Multi-stalt (5), level 15
rakshasa 15 (I've allowed just continuing racial HD, so 8 RHD + 7 LA)//wizard 15//psion 15//factotum 15//warblade 15

I think his maneuvers are already set; but hell if I know what they are right now.  I know that he was planning on using his sorcerer slot for low-level utility spells.  Everything else is pretty open.


I'll have punch and pie for everyone who shows up. :D

Thanks.

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Re: Need help consolidating spells/powers lists
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2013, 09:30:04 PM »
That sounds like one crazy game....

Does factotum extra action ability stack?

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Re: Need help consolidating spells/powers lists
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2013, 05:34:25 AM »
That sounds like one crazy game....
That's the point.  I'm gonna run it 'til it just falls completely apart.
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Does factotum extra action ability stack?
stack with what?


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Re: Need help consolidating spells/powers lists
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2013, 07:59:29 AM »
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Does factotum extra action ability stack?
stack with what?

Itself.  Can you burn Inspiration points to take 2, 3, 4 standard actions during the same turn.  The text is unclear on this.

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Re: Need help consolidating spells/powers lists
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2013, 12:38:48 PM »
Oh wow, I've never noticed that -- that's the only ability that doesn't list what kind of action it is to use.  Huh.
I'm gonna have to remedy this .... make it a swift action?

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Re: Need help consolidating spells/powers lists
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2013, 08:49:13 PM »
Oh wow, I've never noticed that -- that's the only ability that doesn't list what kind of action it is to use.  Huh.
I'm gonna have to remedy this .... make it a swift action?

Well changing it to take an action really weakens it... I would say just limit it to one per turn claiming a variant of "same source bonus" type thing. :)

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Re: Need help consolidating spells/powers lists
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2013, 10:50:28 PM »
Well changing it to take an action really weakens it...
Ah -- yeah, because everything else also takes various types of actions.  So, you would be burning your swift action and 3 IP to do ..... something really crappy.
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I would say just limit it to one per turn claiming a variant of "same source bonus" type thing. :)
I think I can go with that.

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Re: Need help consolidating spells/powers lists
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2013, 07:07:26 AM »
I'd highly recommend using this for sorcerer and wizard spells and using tome of ancient lore + multiple blessed books + secret page spell combo for wizard spells. That should make things quite simple.

I don't have any idea for psion powers other than choose them from the book and write them down.

I hope that helps.

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Re: Need help consolidating spells/powers lists
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2013, 06:34:06 PM »
So, I've finally gotten around to emailing said player with the strategy that I feel lends itself to the most practical and easy to manage lists:

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I've been thinking about strategies for spell selection (i.e., this is the way that I, personally, would go about it):

Psion:
 -- powers that are uniquely psionic, or that are strictly superior to their magic equivalents (such as through greater versatility from augments)
 -- effects that are indeed useful, but not common enough to dedicate a daily wizard spell slot on (i.e., too situational, emergency in-a-pinch, etc.).
Sorcerer: I think you've already got this covered; but just for completeness ...
 -- see #2 of psion ;
 -- stuff where DC or caster level isn't much of an issue.  Some very effective ones that jump off the top of my head:
   * dimension door (4th-level) ; lesser celerity (2nd) ; celerity (4th) ; arcane fusion (when you eventually get 5th-level sorcerer spells, that is)
   * other low-level utilities
Factotum:
 -- see sorcerer
 -- since you'll probably have the skill points, you might as well max UMD
Wizard:  everything not above.  I figure that it will be best to save this for last -- since it is so wide open, if you use your other classes as kind of a process-of-elimination, you'll be able to more easily focus how you want to spend your daily spell slots (especially in regards to customizing for specific needs).

I know that seemed pretty bare-bones; but at least it gives you a push in a manageable direction.

Thoughts?