Spell storing gem (Spellpearl)

[Sjappo]

One of my players asked if he could buy "spellpearls". These gems would store 1 spell for anyone to use and would cost about 500 GP for level 1. I did some googling but I cannot find anything resembling this.

500 GP seems high if the item is expended after use but that doesn't seem to be the case. Or at least not to the players knowledge. And in that case it is pretty cheap for a reusable and very flexible item. If anything spellstoring items seem to be extravagantly expensive.

Does anyone know of such an item?

Or have suggestions about how to price this. I was thinking along the lines of double the price of a potion.

[spacemonkey555]

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/rings.htm#spellStoringMinor

but even more minor, limited to one spell level instead of three, and unslotted.

Spellgem price is 66% of a level 1 wand, and a minor ss ring costs 50% more than a level 3 wand, so the price is probably too low at 500. Pearls of power for level 1 spells are also more expensive at 1000.

Using wands to figure the difference between a third level spell and first level spell gives a factor of 15. Apply that to ring of minor SS gives a price of 1200 for a 1st level ring, 2400 since it's unslotted. 1200 is for a spellgem that takes up a gear slot, like a ring. That's more gentle than basing the price on extrapolation from the rings of spell storing, 10,000 is a bit too much for a level 1 spell storing item.

If based on ring of SS, the caster level will always be 1, the minimum to cast a level 1 spell.

Are Spellgems supposed to only cast spells on the user, like potions? Or can you store a magic missile or charm spell in one?

[kitep]

Actually, I think potion IS the similar item.  A spell storing item that anyone can use.  If they have to hold the gem (ie, a move action to retrieve the item), then pricing should be about the same.  If they can use the spellgem just by having it somewhere on them (probably in a backpack), then it should be double.

Alternatively, you could price them like a one-use command activated item.
Market price = (spell-level) * (caster-level) * 1800 * (1/50) = (spell-level) * (caster-level) * 36 which is actually cheaper than a potion.

[kitep]

Oops, I didn't think to spellgem as being spell-storing.  In that case you may want to consider

Glyph Seal (MIC-161) - 1000gp for a reusable item that holds 1 spell of 2nd level or lower
Glyph Seal, Greater (MIC-161) - 4000gp for a reusable item that holds 1 spell of 5th level or lower

Eternal Wand of QuickPotion (MIC-159 & SpC-164) - 4420gp to cast QuickPotion 2/day which in turn makes a flash of water into a potion.

Pearl of Power (DMG-263) - 1000gp to recast a 1st level spell

And of course Ring of Spell Storing (DMG) and Weapon of Spell-Storing (DMG)

[Sjappo]

May I conclude that, while spellstoring is known, this particular item is an unknown? In that case I can look at pricing.

So the deal is that anyone can use this spellgem, like a potion. And it can be charged by anyone able to cast spell. You buy a blank as it were. Like the Glyph Seal which was mentioned by kiteb. A gem would be able to hold any spell, even attack spells like MM.

This adds flexibility when compared to potions and oils, so a higher price seems reasonable. OTOH why nog give mundanes nice things.

BTW the question came from our resident MotAO who wants to store utility spells drawn from the spellpool from them.

As for a more permanent version. The Ring of Spell Storing is insanely expensive,#spell levels squared * 2000 GP. And restrictive. As it is worded now only a caster can use it.

[rambling]
Maybe I'm looking at it wrong. A magic user could just stock some scrolls for 25 gp per lvl 1 scroll. So maybe 500 GP for a rechargeble anyone can use spell level 1 spells storing item isn't so bad. Expeciality as one has the charge the item with a known spell anyway.
[/rambling]

[spacemonkey555]

You might let him have a lower level version of Shalantha's Delicate Disk, maybe 2nd level that could store a 1st level spell, it can do a 5th level spell for 200 gold normally, so you could extrapolate a cheaper price from that. That would let everyone in the party contribute or use the stored spells.

[Sjappo]

You might let him have a lower level version of Shalantha's Delicate Disk, maybe 2nd level that could store a 1st level spell, it can do a 5th level spell for 200 gold normally, so you could extrapolate a cheaper price from that. That would let everyone in the party contribute or use the stored spells.

Nice find. I can extrapolate from this. Thanx.

[Unbeliever]

There's also the Master Alchemist that can make "spell vials" which are potions for spells that can't be turned into potions normally.   Magic of Eberron, I think? 

Personally, I don't see why this is a whole lot better than a potion.  It opens up more spells, which is a boon, but not that much of one.  Many of the best spells in the game are already "potable" (alter self, bite of x, etc.). 

[Sjappo]

There's also the Master Alchemist that can make "spell vials" which are potions for spells that can't be turned into potions normally.   Magic of Eberron, I think? 

I found the Alchemist Savant in Magic of Eberron. Spellvials seem to do pretty much exactly what I need them to do. They do up the cost with 50% compared to normal potions. And they require a ranged attack roll. So no potion of Magic Missile with a range in the hundreds of feet.

Personally, I don't see why this is a whole lot better than a potion.  It opens up more spells, which is a boon, but not that much of one.  Many of the best spells in the game are already "potable" (alter self, bite of x, etc.).

I agree that it's not much more powerfull than normal potions. And potions are already 100% more expensive than scrolls. They do make UMD obsolete for some part. Which might not even be that much of a problem.

[phaedrusxy]

If gold were free, they'd make UMD obsolete. As-is, wand charges are still WAY cheaper.

[Sjappo]

If gold were free, they'd make UMD obsolete. As-is, wand charges are still WAY cheaper.

Yeah, well, partly obsolete  Or maybe not. Anyway with these spellvials all PC's have a viable way to use some magic.

[Ithamar]

Frostburn has a talisman item that can hold any spell, even personal range, up to level 9, and anyone can use them.  I forget the pricing for it though.

[Sjappo]

Frostburn has a talisman item that can hold any spell, even personal range, up to level 9, and anyone can use them.  I forget the pricing for it though.

Found it. Skull Talisman. Pricing is twice the cost of a potion. 100 GP x Spell Level x Caster Level. Stored spell affects the one to break the skull only. So kinda like a potion only better and more expensive.