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Offline Blightersbane

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5th Abjurant Champ + 1st level fist of Raziel
« on: November 18, 2014, 05:28:48 PM »
1st level FoR class feature offers at will circle vs evil, this is a +2 to AC and abjurant. Question, does this qualify to gain the +5 AC bonus from Ab Champ? If so awesome


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Re: 5th Abjurant Champ + 1st level fist of Raziel
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2014, 05:38:30 PM »
1st level FoR class feature offers at will circle vs evil, this is a +2 to AC and abjurant. Question, does this qualify to gain the +5 AC bonus from Ab Champ? If so awesome


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No, it doesn't.  Abjurant Champion only boosts Abjuration spells that grant an Armor Bonus or Shield Bonus to AC.  The full list of such spells can be found at http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=12558.

Protection From Evil is a Deflection Bonus to AC and not an Armor or Shield Bonus, so it doesn't work.

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Re: 5th Abjurant Champ + 1st level fist of Raziel
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 05:57:53 PM »
well there goes the wind from my sails. I was trying out Abj Champ for the 1st time. Thought Ide benefit/net from the Fist of Raziel's magic circle2+5, Luminous armor5+5 and a shield spell 4+5, thats +26 to AC, and worthy of a capital OMG! Oh well +19 to AC still has a nice ring, but only a small case omg!

thanks for your reply

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Re: 5th Abjurant Champ + 1st level fist of Raziel
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2014, 05:31:39 PM »
You can still use Argent Savant 2 and Abjurant Champion 5 to get +11 shield bonus out of Shield.  Not the best use of your levels,  but fun anyway.
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Re: 5th Abjurant Champ + 1st level fist of Raziel
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2014, 06:35:34 PM »
You can still use Argent Savant 2 and Abjurant Champion 5 to get +11 shield bonus out of Shield.  Not the best use of your levels,  but fun anyway.
It seems I need to add Argent Savant to my Abjurant Champion handbook...  Thank you for reminding me of that class's ability!