Wikipedia's SOPA box

[dman11235]

Possessing child pornography isn't a crime here?  What?  No, I'm pretty sure that still is (in fact, I'm certain that still is), so the crimes are possession, production, and distribution.

On Burst Angel: Yeah, that's the one.  Anyways, the flat chested one was sexualized.  The swim suit is not anything special, but she's still sexualized.  The kid, maybe not so much, but the whole tone of the show is sexualization, and she's in the show.  If you have a porn with a 10 year old fully clothed just watching in the corner, that's STILL A BAD THING.

On Negima: the first two books are essentially porn excepting the first chapter and the last chapter of the second book.  Everything else is gratuitous, but not quite porn.  Yeah, that's right, I said it.

On the definition: that's not the definition I've heard before.  Although the definition varies from person to person, the one I've always heard was that porn has an intent behind it that erotic art lacks.  The definition is still nebulous enough to be open to interpretation, and porn for one might not be porn for all (for an example, look up "inflation" videos on YouTube.  People in inflating latex suits.  Yeah, fetishes are weird.)

[bhu]

Possession can be a crime.  The prosecutor has to prove it's yours still, and that you intended to possess it.  There are cases where people have used the 'it was malware' defense successfully, or it was a family pc and it couldn't be pinned to one person to the courts satisfaction.

[dman11235]

Oh, definitely.  I'm just saying that you were being a tad misleading (if unintentionally) in your previous post.

[oslecamo]

Possessing child pornography isn't a crime here?  What?  No, I'm pretty sure that still is (in fact, I'm certain that still is), so the crimes are possession, production, and distribution.

On Burst Angel: Yeah, that's the one.  Anyways, the flat chested one was sexualized.  The swim suit is not anything special, but she's still sexualized.  The kid, maybe not so much, but the whole tone of the show is sexualization, and she's in the show.  If you have a porn with a 10 year old fully clothed just watching in the corner, that's STILL A BAD THING.

Not any worst than, say, a fully clothed child in the background of some battlefield.

On the definition: that's not the definition I've heard before.  Although the definition varies from person to person, the one I've always heard was that porn has an intent behind it that erotic art lacks. 

Who the hell told you that? Eroticism is all about the sexual intent! If it can't make you aroused, then it's really bad eroticism.

What makes eroticism diferent that porn is that porn is just the act (of implication) of sex whitout  specifically trying to get you aroused. If you tape two people simply going at it, then it's porn. If you tape two people going at it after a lot of (good) sugestive speeches and  careful close-ins of the camera and they show of and whatnot, then it is eroticism.

Corollary: bad enough eroticism cannot be distinguished from porn/fetishes.

[bhu]

Oh, definitely.  I'm just saying that you were being a tad misleading (if unintentionally) in your previous post.

Definitely wasn't my intention.

[veekie]

Update on Megaupload

Didn't know you could hold on to their assets even if the case is dismissed. Isn't that just a company-level embargo?

[Risada]

Update on Megaupload

Didn't know you could hold on to their assets even if the case is dismissed. Isn't that just a company-level embargo?

I don't know if I'm too radical here... but this is bullshit.

I don't see companies like MediaFire and Hotfile being hunted down like a heretic was hunted by the Church. All I see is a few politicians trying to fuck up some random guy to serve as a example to the others...

[veekie]

Its less about who they are doing it to, and more about the why and how really.

_{Didn't want to make a new thread over it(and WTF news is currently enjoying a nice japanese mecha, this'd rather sour things)}

[bhu]

Update on Megaupload

Didn't know you could hold on to their assets even if the case is dismissed. Isn't that just a company-level embargo?

I don't know if I'm too radical here... but this is bullshit.

I don't see companies like MediaFire and Hotfile being hunted down like a heretic was hunted by the Church. All I see is a few politicians trying to fuck up some random guy to serve as a example to the others...

He's the precedent.  If they get him, he's the pretext to go after everyone else.

[skydragonknight]

Update on Megaupload

Didn't know you could hold on to their assets even if the case is dismissed. Isn't that just a company-level embargo?

I don't know if I'm too radical here... but this is bullshit.

I don't see companies like MediaFire and Hotfile being hunted down like a heretic was hunted by the Church. All I see is a few politicians trying to fuck up some random guy to serve as a example to the others...

He's the precedent.  If they get him, he's the pretext to go after everyone else.

So they can go after any foreign company that has a vendor in the U.S.? I'm sure that would fly well on the stock exchange. There's some crazy precedents that come from this that I don't think they've thought through.

[Halinn]

Also, companies are supposed to be separate entities from their owners. There is a lot of questionable legal logic throughout this whole case.

[Sinfire Titan]

I don't see companies like MediaFire and Hotfile being hunted down like a heretic was hunted by the Church. All I see is a few politicians trying to fuck up some random guy to serve as a example to the others...

It's entirely possible that the freeze is in place to prevent a political scandal that was leaked onto MU.

[Risada]

I don't see companies like MediaFire and Hotfile being hunted down like a heretic was hunted by the Church. All I see is a few politicians trying to fuck up some random guy to serve as a example to the others...

It's entirely possible that the freeze is in place to prevent a political scandal that was leaked onto MU.

This is so fucked up it made me laugh out while working. People are staring at me as I type this 

But damn, you may be right, SiFir...

[veekie]

I don't see companies like MediaFire and Hotfile being hunted down like a heretic was hunted by the Church. All I see is a few politicians trying to fuck up some random guy to serve as a example to the others...

It's entirely possible that the freeze is in place to prevent a political scandal that was leaked onto MU.

....that seems dangerously plausible.

[bhu]

I don't see companies like MediaFire and Hotfile being hunted down like a heretic was hunted by the Church. All I see is a few politicians trying to fuck up some random guy to serve as a example to the others...

It's entirely possible that the freeze is in place to prevent a political scandal that was leaked onto MU.

?

[Jackinthegreen]

SOPA may be dead, but there is always more brewing.  http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=25294

[Halinn]

An interesting bit on the cybersecurity act - some of it might be intended to keep US attacks a secret
http://www.lawfareblog.com/2012/07/guessing-what-section-706d-of-the-lieberman-collins-cybersecurity-bill-means/

[veekie]

Isn't that the same <X> strikes thing they were trying to push in Europe for a while? I don't recall that got anywhere though.

[radionausea]

...bunch of girls get invited VIP to a pool party, they wear sexy, ridiculous clothes (one wears a skimpier Faye Valentine copycat outfit normally, and wore something even more ridiculous in the swimsuit)

I had no idea who Faye Valentine was.  Google image search gave me back pages and pages of images of anal sex.

[skydragonknight]

...bunch of girls get invited VIP to a pool party, they wear sexy, ridiculous clothes (one wears a skimpier Faye Valentine copycat outfit normally, and wore something even more ridiculous in the swimsuit)

I had no idea who Faye Valentine was.  Google image search gave me back pages and pages of images of anal sex.

Well, it does take into account user preferences... But seriously, Cowboy Bebop character and my image search was just fine.