What can I get for my familiar?

[kitep]

I'm about to level up in a class that gives me a familiar.  I remember there are several ACFs and whatnots you can get instead, but I don't recall what they are or where to find them.  Help?

[whitetyger009]

more information is needed here.  what level are you what alighment?  do you also have levels of druid or ranger?

[Kremti]

http://dictummortuum.blogspot.com/2011/08/familiars-handbook.html
-Dictum Mortuum's Handbook.  No Dragon Mag stuff

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=344.0
-A few dragon-mag stuff in there

-K

Edit: Oh, I was confused, you are asking what you can get for *giving up* familiars.  I think almost all of the options are for wizards who give up familiars...come to think of it, I don't know any ACF you can get for doing that without being a wizard.

[kitep]

more information is needed here.  what level are you what alighment?  do you also have levels of druid or ranger?

Lawful good, adept, 2nd level (our DM requires everyone to get a few NPC levels before allowing PC classes)

Depending on his mood, he may or may not allow me to use an ACF that's listed for some other class when it comes to trading in my familiar.

[kitep]

http://dictummortuum.blogspot.com/2011/08/familiars-handbook.html
-Dictum Mortuum's Handbook.  No Dragon Mag stuff

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=344.0
-A few dragon-mag stuff in there

-K

Edit: Oh, I was confused, you are asking what you can get for *giving up* familiars.  I think almost all of the options are for wizards who give up familiars...come to think of it, I don't know any ACF you can get for doing that without being a wizard.

Nice lists.  Thanks.

As luck would have it, I got the one class that is NOT listed in Dictuum's guide.  Lucky me

[kitep]

Found one.  Unearthed Arcana, p58.  Lets a wizard/sorceror trade his familiar for an animal companion, as a druid of 1/2 the wizard level.

I've never compaired animal compainions vs familiars, but my gut says that "1/2" means familiar is better.

Edit:  Found another.  Unearthed Arcana, p59ff.   The various specialist wizards can trade the familiar for various things.  Since my adept is not a specialist, I doubt the DM will allow any of these.

Abjurer - get energy resistance 5 vs 1 energy type for 1 hour, 1x/day.  I prefer the familiar.
Conjurer - get rapid summoning (std action instead of full round).  Sounds interesting, but in other games I've not had a problem with it being a full round spell.
Diviner - Enhanced Awareness - sense motive as class skill, Identify in 10 minutes, Arcane Eye travels at double speed, +1 DC to divination spells.
Enchanter - gain Cohort as if with leadership feat (doesn't happen till wizard hits 6th level).  This sounds great, but I doubt the DM will allow it.
Evoker - pick an energy type and cast spells of that type at +1 CL.  I prefer the familiar
Illusionist - harder to disbelieve the illusion
Necromancer - gain skeleton minion - my DM would believe this to be evil, and wouldn't allow a good PC to take it
Transmuter - +2 enhancement bonus to any score, a couple of times/day.  I'll get this from items that last all day.

[whitetyger009]

hey kitep if your going that way also look at the Arcane Heirophant pg 108 races of the wild.  it would mean shifting your alignment away from lawful though.

that would allow your levels of wiz/sor/adp to stack with your levels of druid for determning how good it is then once you take your first level as Arcand Heirophant you would now stack all your familiar abilities on top of your animal companion abilities.

[Maat Mons]

There are some options in Dragon 357, starting on page 88. 

If your DM will let you trade your familiar for an animal companion and then trade the animal companion for the urban companion alternative class feature (Cityscape web enhancement), the net effect is that your familiar becomes expendable in exchange for gaining special abilities, intelligence, and natural armor at half the normal speed. 

Dragon 280, page 61, gives dog as an option for familiar.  This may be the only basic familiar larger than tiny (and thus able to attack without moving into an enemy's square). 

[kitep]

Thanks.  That urban companion looks interesting.