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[3.P] Children of a War Troll Half-Fiend Half-Dragon
« on: September 22, 2012, 09:40:35 PM »
I have a character that is/was a PC in my games and is an NPC in my other games. He's a War Troll Half-Pleasure Devil from a troll mother and devil father. The Half-Dragon template was a reward from a quest. He attained it through a ritual, but for all mechanical and fluff purposes he's a real half-dragon.
I want to state up some of his progeny and I want for his children to inherit some of his racial power. What templates would you suggest for his children? The LA/CR is unimportant. I know there is a Half-Troll template, so that's probably going to be the War Troll part. Then there's a Draconic template, lesser version of Half-Dragon. For the fiend half I could use the Fiendish template. But TBH Draconic and Fiendish are kinda lackluster. Aren't there any better options? And of course - are there any better templates in PF for a half-troll quarter-fiend and quarter dragon?

http://www.myth-weavers.com/showthread.php?t=183990
http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-legacy-discussion/329664-3-p-children-war-troll-half-fiend-half-dragon.html
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« Last Edit: September 23, 2012, 12:17:34 PM by ImperatorK »
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Re: [3.P] Children of a War Troll Half-Fiend Half-Dragon
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2012, 09:42:40 PM »
You could probably make a fun bloodline with that.

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Re: [3.P] Children of a War Troll Half-Fiend Half-Dragon
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2012, 09:50:54 PM »
I'm not interested in bloodlines. I never used them and don't like the concept. I prefer templates.
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Re: [3.P] Children of a War Troll Half-Fiend Half-Dragon
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2012, 02:56:59 AM »
Base race Lesser Tiefling?

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Re: [3.P] Children of a War Troll Half-Fiend Half-Dragon
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 11:12:48 AM »
First off - there's no need for Lesser. As I said LA/CR is unimportant.
Second off - I need TEMPLATES that can be added to a creature. The War Troll wasn't mating only with humans (or humanoids for that matter), so tiefling won't work when the mother will be an elf or an orc or a centaur, etc..

http://www.myth-weavers.com/showthread.php?t=183990
http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-legacy-discussion/329664-3-p-children-war-troll-half-fiend-half-dragon.html
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« Last Edit: September 23, 2012, 12:17:50 PM by ImperatorK »
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Re: [3.P] Children of a War Troll Half-Fiend Half-Dragon
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2012, 04:07:17 AM »
It depends a lot on the other parent I'd say, so finding a template for 'any' pairing is going to be hard.

As an example, if your troll half-devil half-dragon character ends up having a child with a dragon, the child is likely to have the half-dragon template instead of draconic, same with a devil and half-fiend. As lackluster as Draconic might be, it's the most realistic template for your child to get with any non-draconic parent. Half-troll is obvious for any non-troll pairing

So basically, any non-draconic, non-fiendish, non-troll parent will result in the child having the half-troll, draconic and fiendish templates. Unless shenanigans were involved in the birth and/or the other parent has an exotic race and/or template herself.

If you're looking for something else, Dragon Mag 350 had a number of different 'mutation-based templates', which were basically creatures tainted by magical pollution in one way or another. Any creature born to a parent with a high number of magical bloodlines/templates is likely to develop a mutation as a result of the intermixing, and likely unstable, DNA/magical energies. The Arcane-Blood and Stoneboned templates are the most likely, but it's also possible the mixture of troll/fiend/dragon blood creates a Corrupted off-spring, especially if your troll, or the other parent, has spent any time in toxic landscapes or places of dark/evil/fiendish magic/energy, or has been experimented on in quite heinous ways.

That's about it though, all I can think of, hope it helps  :)

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Re: [3.P] Children of a War Troll Half-Fiend Half-Dragon
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2012, 01:06:10 PM »
Well, the problem is that the Fiendish template doesn't actually make that much sense. It's for creatures that are that plane's version of the material one, and actually makes them more extraplanar than half-whatevers, if we're talking fluff (which we seem to be; otherwise you could assign whatever you want as long as you can refluff it).

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Re: [3.P] Children of a War Troll Half-Fiend Half-Dragon
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2012, 04:01:20 PM »
Half Troll draconic Tiefling


Full troll->Half troll
Half Dragon-> 1/4 dragon( AKA Draconic)

Tiefling represents the fiendish taint. Honestly speaking, tiefling is by far the weakest reasoning. There isn't a base race that comes to mind, however; I could buy mongrelfolk pretty easily(maybe with some fiendblooded feats?)

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Re: [3.P] Children of a War Troll Half-Fiend Half-Dragon
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2012, 04:09:42 PM »
Except I already said that I don't want to use Draconic if I can help it. And Tiefling is a race, not a template. I need templates, because the base creature (mothers race) can be quite different for each child.
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