Author Topic: Spellcasting feats (Read 7610 times)

Elevevated Beat · « **on:** December 10, 2012, 11:17:22 PM »

What feats would you take for a spellcaster if you could not take any metamagic feats that required you to raise or lower the spell slot used of the spell? (Eg Empower, Maximize) And assuming there's no access to DMM.
If the feats have a particular synergy or level of broken, could you please make reference to how and what.

Arturick · « **Reply #1 on:** December 10, 2012, 11:30:44 PM »

Within those parameters, I'd probably be taking Spell Focus, Greater Spell Focus, and Improved Initiative.

Of course, I'm not the most creative caster player.

sirpercival · « **Reply #2 on:** December 10, 2012, 11:36:09 PM »

What kind of spellcaster are you? Arcane or Divine, party role?

Either way, Invisible Spell is probably a good one to take.

Elevevated Beat · « **Reply #3 on:** December 11, 2012, 12:37:22 AM »

I have access to any Druid, Cleric, Wizard, and Sorcerer spell. So, short answer, both.
Wizard style casting, but the spells I can cast each turn (from my prepared spells) are randomised to a certain extent.
Party role... nothing defined, really. My current spell selection is a bunch of rays. I was thinking, to go totally off the beaten track to only prepare summon spells (which would give me a few feats I could then use effectively). But it's sort of all up in the air.

Doesn't Invisibility Spell have a prereq of a metamagic feat? As that is definitely one I'm interested in taking. I was just stuck on getting hold of a no prereq metmagic feat that didn't change spell slot levels.

Quote from: Arturick on December 10, 2012, 11:30:44 PM

Spell Focus, Greater Spell Focus, and Improved Initiative.

These were on my list too. I added Spell Penetration as well as I was pretty much stuck on what I could choose.

What about things like Craft: Wondorous Item or Craft: Rod/Wand?

Flavour wise my character worships the goddess of luck. So maybe there are Luck based feats to fill it out a bit. I don't have access to the Luck domain, but I might be able to swing it if it opens up extra feats. I just won't be able to cast the spells from the domain spell list :S

EDIT: Thank you both for the replies, btw.

sirpercival · « **Reply #4 on:** December 11, 2012, 12:39:57 AM »

Is homebrew allowed?

EDIT: If not, you could go with SF Conjuration and Augment Summoning.

How about dragon mag? Are you a specialist wizard?

Elevevated Beat · « **Reply #5 on:** December 11, 2012, 01:06:32 AM »

Homebrew is allowed. But, of course, I have to pass it with the DM. As for Dragon Mag, I haven't asked that specific question but the DM is pretty chillaxed with these things. As long as I don't break the world... too early in the campaign.

I'm not a specialist wizard, I'm a Card... ~~can't actually get the link to the site currently, but I have posted a link previously. Gimme a minute and I'll find it.~~ EDIT: That was easier than I anticipated.

For completeness' sake I'll add that I've used up one of my future feats to get Leadership (refluffed as a business mogul).

I wouldn't mind doing the summoning route, it's just that, from what I've read, I get the general feeling that summoning loses any edge later on in the game in favour of save or die/suck/lose spells. Hell, even in lower levels too unless you want to get books thrown at you when you take Greenbound Summoning.

sirpercival · « **Reply #6 on:** December 11, 2012, 01:12:32 AM »

Hmm... Martial Study? Interesting Times and/or Coin's Edge seem perfect for this...

Elevevated Beat · « **Reply #7 on:** December 11, 2012, 01:29:00 AM »

Interesting Times - Min/Max - http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=6830.0
Coin's Edge - GitP - http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75548

That's where I've found them, sound right?

sirpercival · « **Reply #8 on:** December 11, 2012, 01:30:00 AM »

Yup. Also, in the link in my sig, I have a link to the Homebrew Martial Discipline Compendium, where I've compiled links to almost every homebrew discipline out there.

Elevevated Beat · « **Reply #9 on:** December 11, 2012, 01:43:04 AM »

Yeah... I went into your sig once. And unless I have several hours spare I refuse to go in again

So Invisibility and Spell Focus are it? (Edit: Outside of Martial Discipline choices, which I'm skimming now) Assuming no "specialisation" of spells chosen.

Summoning has Augment Summoning, Greenbound *dodges books*, Ashbound, Rashemi (unable to check if that actually has any relevance outside of Druid summoning).

sirpercival · « **Reply #10 on:** December 11, 2012, 01:45:43 AM »

Well, if you'll be doing any buffing, Ability Enhancer is nice, especially on spells like Fist of Stone, Animalistic Power, Casing Perfection, etc.

Elevevated Beat · « **Reply #11 on:** December 11, 2012, 02:43:20 AM »

Hmm. Thank you for your input so far. Much appreciated +1
I must depart now, but you've given me a bit to look over and consider.

Empirate · « **Reply #12 on:** December 11, 2012, 04:27:13 AM »

If you like fire spells, how about Bloodline of Fire (Player's Guide to Faerûn) and Energy Substitution (Fire)? Adding +2 CL to a lot of your spells can come in really handy.

I also like Born of Three Thunders, a spontaneously applied (!) Metamagic with no spell level increase (but you pay a round of dazing yourself) to render targets damaged by your electricity or sonic spells stunned, prone, and deaf. This functions really nicely with damage-over-time spells (lightning substituted Freezing Fog with BoTT is slow death to everything caught in it; Kelgore's Grave Mist is the low-level equivalent, with no save, no SR), spells that give you a weapon/effect usable time and again on later rounds (like Call Lightning, which is even cast-able before combat starts), and spells that add bonus damage to an ally's weapon (lightning substituted BoTT Flame Arrow can equip a whole platoon with stun-prone-deaf arrows or bolts for a whole dungeon).

Elevevated Beat · « **Reply #13 on:** December 11, 2012, 06:07:24 AM »

Wow. I totally overlooked BotTT, and there was discussion about the feat only the other day on here.
Lmao, if I add invisibility to the fog spells they'll never know which way to go. Hahahaha

BotTT + Flame Arrow is nice. It'd work with bullets too, yeah? I don't see anything to suggest otherwise, especially as it'd be a lightning bullet and not a fire bullet in the chamber of the gun...

Thanks for that!

TiaC · « **Reply #14 on:** December 11, 2012, 07:05:33 AM »

Spellcasting Prodigy:your casting stat is treated as 2 higher for DCs and bonus slots.

Empirate · « **Reply #15 on:** December 11, 2012, 07:30:36 AM »

Sadly, Spellcasting Prodigy was updated to only provide an effective bonus as regards to bonus spell slots, not save DC. Which really makes me a sad panda.

Elevevated Beat · « **Reply #16 on:** December 11, 2012, 07:36:51 AM »

And unfortunately I don't get bonus slots with my class :S

I've looked through pretty much every metamagic feat I could get my hands on, excluding ~~Dragon Mag and~~ (Edit: Looks like I went through Dragon Mag) online stuff. Unless I can get a refluff on Fiery Spell for lightning, it would seem I have to take one of the Sudden X feats to get my metamagic prereq so I can grab Energy Substitution.
That being said, Energy Affinity is basically the same thing. It doesn't require me to know a metamagic feat, but it also doesn't qualify you for BotTT.

Yeah, I've decided to have fun with BotTT. Lightning kinda suits my character. Random and flashy. Shows up, wrecks something, then disappears.

SorO_Lost · « **Reply #17 on:** December 11, 2012, 10:20:31 AM »

Don't forget Reserves of Strength

sirpercival · « **Reply #18 on:** December 11, 2012, 10:27:25 AM »

Quote from: SorO_Lost on December 11, 2012, 10:20:31 AM

Don't forget Reserves of Strength

FTFY

Elevevated Beat · « **Reply #19 on:** December 11, 2012, 07:11:13 PM »

That's a pretty cool feat, thanks!

The link that you put in sirpercival, while it has some very cool ideas (and thank you), confused the sh*t out of me with your possible interpretations of the rules.

I couldn't find Favor of the Martyr in the Spell Compendium (AFB atm, so was checking dndtools.eu)

So may just have to check when I get home

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Author Topic: Spellcasting feats (Read 7610 times)