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D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« on: December 17, 2015, 11:41:14 PM »
So, dndtools.pw was around last night, and when I tried to use it today I discovered it to be completely gone. Guess WotC finally caught on (again).
(I actually own almost every book from the 3e and 3.5 run, but the search filters on that site were so very helpful.)
alcyius.com seems to have all the material, but the search functions don't work at all, which was the only reason for me to use it.
Anyone know of any other working mirrors posted of the dndtools database?

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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2015, 12:24:28 AM »
I wish I did, most sites are site mirrors hosted the pages rather than running the SQL queries through the database.

A couple members here have the full database and I think D&DTools.eu released the SRD based engine as an Android app, if you've jailbroke your phone (or a droid emulator on your computer) you should be able to merge the two so you can run your own local copy without having to install Apache and such.

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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2015, 01:28:38 AM »
I wish I did, most sites are site mirrors hosted the pages rather than running the SQL queries through the database.

http://alcyius.com/dndtools/

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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2015, 05:47:02 AM »
Yes, I noticed it last night but thought that it might be a temporary glitch.

I wish I did, most sites are site mirrors hosted the pages rather than running the SQL queries through the database.

http://alcyius.com/dndtools/

Well that didn't take long. :D
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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2015, 06:35:44 AM »
OK
How do I fix the search function ?
Also the items per page and pagination buttons don't work — so this is almost useless.

Ed:
I could be wrong, but it appears that they simply forgot to renew their domain name — which figures given that they set up the site about a year ago.

Someone has just (Re?-) purchased the domain name ?
« Last Edit: December 18, 2015, 07:10:46 AM by Nedz »
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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2015, 07:39:59 AM »
alcyius has been up about as long as .pw has :tongue

There's no means to 'fix' the search function as its just a redirect to .pw's search, but the filters still work. *shrugs*
« Last Edit: December 18, 2015, 07:41:36 AM by ketaro »

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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2015, 09:16:48 AM »
The filters (at least on spells) aren't working for me. I guess it's time to make a bookmark to a custom google search. Does anyone know of a url I could use instead of having to c+p "site:etc" into google each time?

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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2015, 09:52:36 AM »
I can't seem to get any of the Filters to work, nor the Items per page, nor the pagination feature. This means that I can only view the top 20 items in each category.
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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2015, 10:00:53 AM »
OK
How do I fix the search function ?
Also the items per page and pagination buttons don't work — so this is almost useless.
http://alcyius.com/dndtools/ is once such site mirror. The actual pages are simply posted online making it limited in function since it's impossible to host every search variation out there. As a result it only has 37,228 different pages (I have the same copy locally).

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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2015, 10:12:52 AM »
From my original post:
alcyius.com seems to have all the material, but the search functions don't work at all, which was the only reason for me to use it.
I've been searching it using google by typing "site:alcyius.com/dndtools (whatever I'm searching for)", but it doesn't work at 100% Like if I search for "evocation [fire]", I'm not getting the same number of results I was getting using the filter on the pw website.

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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2015, 10:29:57 AM »
OK
How do I fix the search function ?
Also the items per page and pagination buttons don't work — so this is almost useless.
http://alcyius.com/dndtools/ is once such site mirror. The actual pages are simply posted online making it limited in function since it's impossible to host every search variation out there. As a result it only has 37,228 different pages (I have the same copy locally).
Looking at the page source: the Java script seems to be incomplete.
Where is this held ?

OK I think I've found the problem.
The javascript has hardcoded href values pointing to dndtools.pw
These obviously won't work and they probably should be set to alcyius.com

It's likely that they would have worked until yesterday which could be why this wasn't spotted previously.

Hmmm, on further inspection this might just be the Google search and Facebook interfaces. Unless the Filters are just a Search wrapper of some kind ?

If this is the case then the error is in index.html

OK - the failing features all use the get method in index.html which on line 74 has dndtool.pw hardcoded: Search, Filters and Pagination.

The only other feature which uses this is the Facebook interface, which should also be broken. But since I don't facebook I can't test this.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2015, 11:26:56 AM by Nedz »
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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2015, 10:54:54 AM »
Where is this held ?
When D&D Tools first announced they were going down someone sent a crawler on it to save the site. It's a 149mb file, I should be able to dropbox it for you if you like.

Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xym6e6yzcdbpx5z/dndtools.eu.rar?
Just unrar into a new folder and open the the index file (bookmark it for easy of access), basic functionality works just fine through it's unsearchable. Note: You don't have to have a dropbox account to download, if the login pops up just hit the X on it.
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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2015, 10:58:33 AM »
I have no means of hosting at this point.

Do we know who hosts alcyius.com ?
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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2015, 11:27:45 AM »
I have no means of hosting at this point.

Do we know who hosts alcyius.com ?

I think the better question is do we know who runs .pw. That site was being updated, and had made some great progress. Alycius doesn't have some basic things like Hidden Talent (google cache to the rescue).

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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2015, 11:35:55 AM »
I think the better question is do we know who runs .pw.
.pw is the country code for Palau.

Think of it like .com meets dialing 9 for international calls.

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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2015, 11:38:25 AM »
I think the better question is do we know who runs .pw.
.pw is the country code for Palau.

Think of it like .com meets dialing 9 for international calls.

That's the country whose domain it is, yes, but who was the person running the site, and can they be contacted to provide a copy of the data or to let them know to rehost it, is what I meant.

Edit: Sorry if I was unclear; I meant to use .pw to differentiate between that dndtools and the Alycius dndtools.

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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2015, 12:03:26 PM »
OK - I've had fun afternoon debugging this stuff  :cool

The Problem
The Search, Pagination and Filter logic all uses the get function which has a hard coded URL in the HTML. This would have worked fine until yesterday when our pacific island sank, now it doesn't point anywhere.
The Facebook interface also uses similar logic.

FIX
Right there are multiple index.html files, one for each category, and they all need to be changed.

The first entry, typically line 73 or 74, is the critical one. The other entries are just for the Facebook interface.

In any event - its just a global file edit of the html - change dndtools.pw to Alycius.com/dndtools.

Unfortunately I can't do this because the files are locked - quite rightly - but the owner of Alycius could do this easily.
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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2015, 02:46:34 PM »
Where is this held ?
When D&D Tools first announced they were going down someone sent a crawler on it to save the site. It's a 149mb file, I should be able to dropbox it for you if you like.

Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xym6e6yzcdbpx5z/dndtools.eu.rar?
Just unrar into a new folder and open the the index file (bookmark it for easy of access), basic functionality works just fine through it's unsearchable. Note: You don't have to have a dropbox account to download, if the login pops up just hit the X on it.

Is there any program that could be used in conjunction with this to make it searchable?

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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2015, 06:11:20 PM »
Aw hell, I worked on dndtools.pw.  I swear I look away for a week and it dies while I'm not working.  I hope someone managed to get a siterip of it that's recent.  I put in several hours of work since it became dndtools.pw and I don't want to see it go to waste.
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Re: D&D tools (.pw version) gone.
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2015, 07:04:31 PM »
Where is this held ?
When D&D Tools first announced they were going down someone sent a crawler on it to save the site. It's a 149mb file, I should be able to dropbox it for you if you like.

Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xym6e6yzcdbpx5z/dndtools.eu.rar?
Just unrar into a new folder and open the the index file (bookmark it for easy of access), basic functionality works just fine through it's unsearchable. Note: You don't have to have a dropbox account to download, if the login pops up just hit the X on it.

Is there any program that could be used in conjunction with this to make it searchable?
  • Grab the HTML from the drop
  • Make the changes I suggested
  • Open your local copy
Ed: Actually it might be a little trickier than that - bear with me
Aw hell, I worked on dndtools.pw.  I swear I look away for a week and it dies while I'm not working.  I hope someone managed to get a siterip of it that's recent.  I put in several hours of work since it became dndtools.pw and I don't want to see it go to waste.
I hope you have a back up.

Do you know what has actually happened ?
« Last Edit: December 19, 2015, 07:35:06 PM by Nedz »
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