Non-living Mindless Incorporeal Creature?

[Bauglir]

Does a creature exist that has no Con score, is Mindless (not merely immune to mind-affecting effects), and Incorporeal? I'm homebrewing something and I'm just curious if a creature exists that has all three of these - many of the effects fail against a creature that possesses one of these qualities, and one that had all of them would be completely immune to everything but the area effects. Quick scanning of the monster manuals and libris mortis has suggested no matches, but I could've missed something.

[sirpercival]

Ghost Assassin Vine.

[Bauglir]

Why are mindless plants even legal targets? Blah. Okay, how about without templates?

[Ithamar]

The Forge of War (an Eberron splatbook) has a Construct with the Incorporeal subtype.  But it, unfortunately, has INT 5.  But still, an incorporeal construct is pretty cool.  Also has Hide in Plain Sight and Shadow Blend.  Edit:  Shadow Bond ability, not Blend.  Very different ability, but still pretty nifty.

Give that thing the Darkstalker feat and you'll never find it... almost.

[awaken_D_M_golem]

  ... my kitty avatar

[zook1shoe]

With a couple dragon magazine templates, you can have a creature that's stats are...

Str --, Dex --, Con --, Int --, Wis --, Cha 'x'

Yet, is somehow still technically a creature, based on these templates despite not having a Wis score.

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

... my kitty avatar

I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND 

With a couple dragon magazine templates, you can have a creature that's stats are...

Str --, Dex --, Con --, Int --, Wis --, Cha 'x'

Yet, is somehow still technically a creature, based on these templates despite not having a Wis score.

Do tell!

[zook1shoe]

I'm afb, so the exact order required to do so isn't exact.... But

Get one of the many incorporeal templates for a non-score in Strength.
The Living Wall template gives you a non-score in both Dexterity and Constitution.
Get one of the many templates that makes you mindless for a non-score in Intelligence.
The Dream Element template gives you a non-score in Wisdom.
There's no official one for Charisma

The mindless template will probably make you end up with a record-breaking Charisma of 1.

[Nanshork]

... my kitty avatar

I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND 

Are you really trying to understand aDMg?  I thought everybody knew better? 

Then again, I can remember one time that he was extremely coherent AND saying something I wholeheartedly agreed with.  I can't remember what it was though...

[Halinn]

Then again, I can remember one time that he was extremely coherent AND saying something I wholeheartedly agreed with.  I can't remember what it was though...

Maybe you were having a nightmare? That couldn't have been the aDMg we know and love.

[altpersona]

ok, so can we sub ethereal for incorporeal?

if ethereal is ok, then take a corpse to the ethereal and raise it as a skeleton or zombie... it cant attack the prime but if it had a force weapon or other such it could...

maybe give its natural attacks the force or ghost touch quality. (not sure how, a magic item could work, and provide bonus treasure)

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if not just make a skeleton(mindless undead) out of an Unbodied (Medium Monstrous Humanoid (Incorporeal, Psionic))

nevermind 

[Thurbane]

The Phantom template (MM5) can be applied to "any corporeal creature". It doesn't technically give the Incorporeal subtype, but on any creature of CR5 or higher it can become incorporeal or corporeal as a swift action. Slap the template on any mindless, corporeal creature of CR5 or higher, and it meets all of the OP reqs.

Aside from that, no, don't know of any such beastie without using templates.

[awaken_D_M_golem]

  ... I may have been "confusing"
Real Life from D&D for a moment.


It should be self-evident that my
kitty avatar is Non-living.  Technically
it is mindless, although I am not ... 
Incorporeal ??  My kitty is 2D , but I think
the rest of me is 3D.  So I'm not sure.

[ksbsnowowl]

I imagine if you put Umbral Creature (or the like) on a Telthor (Unapproachable East), you could get what you are looking for.

Telthor turns a human or an animal into an incorporeal fey.  Add on something that makes you mindless and undead, and it might work, though I think most of the undead templates must be applied to a corporeal creature.

[awaken_D_M_golem]

With a couple dragon magazine templates, you can have a creature that's stats are...

Str --, Dex --, Con --, Int --, Wis --, Cha 'x'

Yet, is somehow still technically a creature, based on these templates despite not having a Wis score.

Do tell!

2nd-ing the: "Do Tell!"

I suppose it'd have to be a Warlock.

[Tonymitsu]

Prismatic Golems in Monster Manual III
Large Constructs with the Extraplanar, Good, and Incorporeal subtypes
Con — and Int —

the entry says something weird about a moral code... seems hard for a BBEG to use... unless the party is evil.

EDIT: The entry also says the golem is constructed of the physical matter from the Blessed Fields of Elysium. and has a sidebar that suggests options for creating golems made of out of other planes. Making an incorporeal one out of shadowstuff isn't too much of a stretch, IMO

[zook1shoe]

I was thinking breaking a record... the character with lowest overall scores

See post #7 for the actual info, awaken

[Amechra]

I homebrewed a creature who could, at will, become Incorporeal, Mindless, and/or Con-score-less. But, yeah, it probably ain't what you are looking for...

[zook1shoe]

Does a creature exist that has no Con score, is Mindless (not merely immune to mind-affecting effects), and Incorporeal? I'm homebrewing something and I'm just curious if a creature exists that has all three of these - many of the effects fail against a creature that possesses one of these qualities, and one that had all of them would be completely immune to everything but the area effects. Quick scanning of the monster manuals and libris mortis has suggested no matches, but I could've missed something.

Hairy spider w/ undead template... Can do this for ~2 ECL

[ksbsnowowl]

Does a creature exist that has no Con score, is Mindless (not merely immune to mind-affecting effects), and Incorporeal? I'm homebrewing something and I'm just curious if a creature exists that has all three of these - many of the effects fail against a creature that possesses one of these qualities, and one that had all of them would be completely immune to everything but the area effects. Quick scanning of the monster manuals and libris mortis has suggested no matches, but I could've missed something.

Hairy spider w/ undead template... Can do this for ~2 ECL

Oh, duh! Any vermin made into an incorporeal undead would suffice.  An umbral creature giant spider, for example.