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You're moving to Pathfinder to get away from rules bickering?  BWWWWWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHhhh...

Yeah, I know. We've been playing PF for about eight months now, and we still have rules disagreements fairly frequently, but we usually resolve them in a few minutes because the source of the bickering left in a huff when he couldn't be the GM anymore. Yet the wounds persist, and the new GM really hates the idea of mixing the rules revisions. I'm pretty happy with the alchemist and magus that I've run so far, and the harmony makes the RP more fun, so I'm not looking to rock the boat.

Thanks for the help everyone. I'll be passing that homebrewmajig on to my GM.

Thanks!

Thanks for all of the ideas, folks.

By the rolled ability scores and use of all core I see that your DM has basically no experience whatsoever, so be wary for nightmarishly over the top challenges and/or snapping his game in two the moment you cast a decent spell.

 We're actually doing this "no-frills" adventure with one of the players in our current game GMing because we spend 3-4 hours out of a nine-hour session bickering about something or other, and we're hoping that fewer rules will mean less to argue about.  My contention is that 90% of the bickering we do is over things in the PHB ("WTF is an overrun?" kind of stuff) and that a third of the classes in the PHB are terrible, but nobody believes me. Doing something where each player's turn is less than fifteen minutes long will be refreshing anyway. The current campaign is also so  heavily houseruled that the new GM contends (jokingly) that none of us actually knows how to play D&D to begin with. Current GM loves him some crit/fumble cards

I'm looking at putting Fleshgrinding on a secondary weapon, but I want to clear something up first.

"In each round at the start of your turn, it au­tomatically damages that creature as if you had scored a normal hit with it (including damage from the weapon's enhancement bonus, other weapon properties, and your normal bonus from Strength, but not extra damage from feats such as Power Attack)."

If I put this on a lance and deal double damage on a mounted charge, will it continue to deal double damage on each subsequent round? I'm leaning toward no, because that's not really a "normal hit," but that could count as a "weapon propert[y]," unless that's only referring to magical properties such as flaming, etc.

It may just be better to put this on a dagger, though even with my half-ogre's 34 str, that's only 1d6+13 for a +1 fleshgrinding dagger. At a party level of 14-16, we're well into the rocket tag stage, and it may not be worth it at all. Your thoughts?

I ended up creating a half-ogre Crusader and an MoMF out of this situation. We'll see which the DM prefers. So what's the advantage of a wildshape ranger over a druidic avenger for an MoMF?

I'm playing a troll.

Recipient of a special vision from Ilmater, he now uses his incredible toughness to protect the smaller, weaker lifeforms from harm, and one day seeks to bring all trolls into the service of the Broken God.

He has a permanent Greater Magic Fang on all three natural attacks (houserule is that permanent spells interact with dispelling/AMFs the same as magic items so I'm in the clear on that),
+1 mithral chain shirt (nonproficient, but no armor check penalty. Lookie, I'm a certain hobbit!) and amulet of natural armor +1.
Currently 7th level (Savage Species progression) with 53 HP, AC of 21, saves of 11/4/3, and Regeneration 1. I have two feats. I'll attempt to buy off a little LA when I can (14th and 17th levels.  )

a) What should my two feats be? Is the +5 to Will saves from Steadfast Determination worth taking Endurance as my only other feat?
aa) Is there a version of SD for Reflex saves?
b) What's a good class to get into at level 12? I'm thinking that Crusader might be a good choice since I can use my 6 racial HD to start getting 2nd level maneuvers out the gate.
c) Can you get my HP/AC any higher?
d) Anything else?

We have a new player in the group whose first game will be Saturday (Aug 11). He came to me asking about making a "fighter who does thief things." I'm having some difficulty with this since I've never actually played this kind of character, so I'm reprinting our conversation here with his permission.

Joe said:
 I was thinking about making an elf figher/thief ... with the thief being unknown... would that be a 6/6 class ? I haven't played since 2 ed... so don't know a lot of the changes ... I can always play a ranger too, but would rather do a fighter/ "thief" if possible. I would need 85 points in skills which I can do , just need to know what class is allowed.

I said:
That depends heavily on what you want out of your character. I'm not familiar at all with 2nd ed, though.
((combat-focused rogue build))
 You will be able to find and disarm traps, have a general awareness of what's around you, sneak up on opponents, avoid opportunity attacks while on the move, set up flanks, hit other people who are on the move, and feint as a move action (Bluff check to make opponent disregard you).

Joe said:
 I want a fighter that the group doesn't know is also a thief, helps in picking up valuables to better gear the character or to avoid getting the group into trouble, by his sneakiness. Had a fighter that actually would pick locks with knives and swords if he couldn't just brute strength the lock...  group never found out he was actually a thief also. he had fun with the random pick pocket and appraisal runs..

I said:
I'm having trouble modeling this character in third edition, the main problem being that fighters don't get enough skill points to cover what you want to do. So, with your permission, I'm going to post this conversation on a message board and see what they come up with. Let me know.

Books: Core is preferred, but a feat or two from Completes is usually fine. Of course, something simple is preferred since he hasn't played in a decade or so.

Thanks!

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. another question: I have a leap attacking charger. Would using the anklet to teleport ten feet straight up count as a) a charge, b) a leap attack, and c) falling object damage negatable to myself only with a DC15 Jump check?

I'm currently playing a Xeph warlock (5th level, blaster, headed for Hellfire Warlock). I had all of my stuff taken away a couple of levels ago by slavers and the loot has not been forthcoming since. The organization we work for has decided to give us some money for our third trip into the Underdark. Cave/temple/Drow outpost-style adventure.

They gave us 2000gp, so I have:

A standard adventuring kit
A scroll of ghoul touch
3000gp

Invocations: Eldritch Spear, Sickening Blast, Baleful Utterance

Darkvision
UMD check of +11, Deceive Item

He's been pretty permissive so far on what books we can use, but I'm sensing a coming snapback if I stray too far past core+completes. Feel free to suggest outside of those, though.

Thanks in advance!