Babylon 5: Shadows and Vorlons

[bhu]

so would their discipline be telepathy or something else?

[Psysama]

I am going to have to say something else, although I can't decide what, except not psychokinesis.
Edit: Psychometabolism or Clairsentience

[Psysama]

I'm going to have to go with Psychometabolism, because it has the right "Shadow" feel to it.

[bhu]

any idea on how many pp to manifest something like invisibility

[Psysama]

For invisibility itself...3 points
The psioncs have an ability that functions like invisibility (Cloud Mind), but only for one target. (like I am invisible, but only to you).

[bhu]

any thoughts on what youd like for the second and third principles?

[Psysama]

Why not instead of technology points, change it to psi-points?
#2:  The Second Principle dictates that some must be destroyed to improve the rest. When the Shadow becomes attuned to
this principle, it can benefit from the harm it inflicts. The Shadow regains 1d4 psi points for every 3 enemies destroyed or causes a significant setback to forces not considered an ally.

#3:  The Third Principle of perfection through victory is the ultimate goal of the Shadows. The Shadow regains 2d6 psi points whenever it conquers a significant bastion of order, such as a Vorlon-architected alliance or creation.

Perfect for campaigns with mass amounts of war, but will still work with smaller amounts of battle.  #2 is a minor victory, #3 is a bigger battle victory.

[bhu]

how exactly are the vorlon better at phasing than vorlons?

[Psysama]

Vorlon:
When Phasing is activated,
the Vorlon can pass through objects freely, but the Vorlon
becomes solid again when phasing is deactivated.

Shadow:
Shadow Phasing allows the user to become intangible. Unlike
the Vorlon version, this technology is much more flexible. It
can be activated as an attack action and lasts until the Shadow
chooses to become tangible again. High-energy fields such
as power conduits can impede a Shadow’s movement, but it
can pass through barriers relatively easily. Becoming tangible
again is an attack action.

Vorlons take a full-turn action while Shadows can use up an attack action.  The Shadows are also invisible while they are phasing and my guess is Vorlons cannon move through wall of force, shadows...not so limited.

[bhu]

hpw much extra pp do you suppose we should charge?

[Psysama]

Well, probably at least ten.  Or do you think more?

[bhu]

Well, probably at least ten.  Or do you think more?

I'm not that experienced with psi.  Mebbe I should pose the question to da forum.

[bhu]

http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=15601.0  what do you think psy

[Psysama]

I like the first guy's idea, but the second guy's idea doesn't require house rules.  I think the Shadow would have the Burrowing Power feat. 

[bhu]

what should i add for mature shadow body? skill bonuses?

[Psysama]

For Mature Shadow Body, they should have some form of resistance to scrying and anytime another creature would use Detect Thoughts (the spell or the power) needs to make a save or fall under the affect of a Brain Lock (always active)

Indeed, their minds are fortified against telepathy and any telepath unfortunate enough to look inside the thoughts of a Shadow suffers terrible feedback and psychic injury.

As for skill bonuses, they get a +4 to balance checks due to their extra legs, the book doesn't say on diplomacy except:

The Shadows can be surprisingly diplomatic but are limited by their dislike of speaking lesser languages. As
soon as the target can Speak Shadow, then Diplomacy can be used as normal.

they cannot disguise (not that they need to), have a +4 to gather information.  As for knowledge, they are like the Vorlons.

[bhu]

Okay whaddya  think of what i put up?

[Psysama]

CR is caster rating?  Challenge rating?
Very good by the way!

[bhu]

challenge rating, I'll fix that

[bhu]

What does i has left?