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Offline veekie

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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2012, 11:52:56 PM »
Quote from: Halinn on January 21, 2012, 08:09:04 AM
Quote from: Prime32 on January 20, 2012, 08:55:16 PM
Quote from: Halinn on January 20, 2012, 07:15:40 PM
Also interesting to read is the pirate bay's SOPA message: https://static.thepiratebay.org/legal/sopa.txt
It relates how Hollywood got started by going around patents and ignoring copyright.
Can someone repost that here? Pirate Bay is blocked in Ireland. :grave
There's a DNS block on it here in Denmark as well. I just set things up to use a different DNS.
Here in Malaysia as well, I used a combination of DNS replacement(google DNS works, generally speaking), and direct IP lookup->addition to Hosts file.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2012, 04:16:05 AM »
Quote from: bhu on January 21, 2012, 04:04:05 PM
How much time would one get for kicking lamar smith in the nuts i wonder?
I can see the headlines already

"Today on [News]: The republican Lamar Smith was assaulted by a man from Ohio who claims he'd been fed enough of his nonsense. The police are investigating the incident, but as no great harm was done all sources point towards that *puts on sunglasses* a cat is fined too"
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2012, 07:14:02 PM »
Quote from: Monotremeancer on January 22, 2012, 04:16:05 AM
Quote from: bhu on January 21, 2012, 04:04:05 PM
How much time would one get for kicking lamar smith in the nuts i wonder?
I can see the headlines already

"Today on [News]: The republican Lamar Smith was assaulted by a man from Ohio who claims he'd been fed enough of his nonsense. The police are investigating the incident, but as no great harm was done all sources point towards that *puts on sunglasses* a cat is fined too"

YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Out of curiosity, since it's related, will you be helping Black March?  It's easy for me, I was pretty much doing it anyway, but I figure the more people who help (or at least know about it) the better.  If you didn't hear about it, in March no one buys (or pirates) any music, movies, video games, or anything else.  All of this is non-essential stuff, you can wait til April for it.  Let them go a whole money without anyone getting their money.  The only part I have to do is no video games since I never did the other stuff anyways, and thats easy enough.  I needed to save money anyway, and it doesn't stop you from enjoying your pre-existing material.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2012, 07:43:23 PM »
The megaupload bust is already having the effect it was intended to.  A couple of similar services have ceased operation within the US or altered their service so that you can only download files you yourself have stored.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2012, 09:51:06 PM »
Quote from: bhu on January 22, 2012, 07:43:23 PM
The megaupload bust is already having the effect it was intended to.  A couple of similar services have ceased operation within the US or altered their service so that you can only download files you yourself have stored.

Password-protected files have always made the most sense to me. More of the "loaning to a friend" and less of the "hey, who wants this?"
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2012, 01:44:56 PM »
Scratch that as of today all similar services but one shut down or blocked us ip addresses.  Apparently the concern is most of them have a legal tidbit in their terms of services saying the uploader shares sole legal responsibility for anything he puts up, but the US authorities have said in their lawsuit that that's invalid and does not protect them in any way.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2012, 09:15:57 PM »
Wouldn't that invalidate most EULAs everywhere?

Edit: 4shared, my regular download site, still works in the US.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2012, 12:53:59 AM »
Well, here we have a clear cut case of outright intimidation.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2012, 01:33:38 PM »
I don't keep up with the news for one lousy month and this is what happens? How on earth did MegaUpload get torched?
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2012, 02:38:47 PM »
Oh simple, they dragged Megaupload's owner to court on criminal charges, despite being A) a neutral service provider B) piracy being a civil offense to begin with. They had a strike team and everything to grab him.

The good part is hes filthy rich and probably more than able to contest the charges legally speaking. The bad part is hes filthy rich and they'd be probably playing on that to the jury and the press.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2012, 03:03:33 PM »
^They actually dragged him out of New Zealand to the states for the trial.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2012, 05:50:31 PM »
Quote from: veekie on January 24, 2012, 02:38:47 PM
Oh simple, they dragged Megaupload's owner to court on criminal charges, despite being A) a neutral service provider B) piracy being a civil offense to begin with. They had a strike team and everything to grab him.

The good part is hes filthy rich and probably more than able to contest the charges legally speaking. The bad part is hes filthy rich and they'd be probably playing on that to the jury and the press.

He was rich.  Last I heard all his assetts are frozen besides his personal credit cards, and he may have maxed them out or close to it. 
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2012, 06:50:23 PM »
"Hey guys, we don't need to bother to pass this SOPA legislation anynore, we can arrest those people we don't like just fine whitout it!"

A true case of "Screw the rules, I have more money than you".
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2012, 03:49:09 AM »
Quote from: bhu on January 24, 2012, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: veekie on January 24, 2012, 02:38:47 PM
Oh simple, they dragged Megaupload's owner to court on criminal charges, despite being A) a neutral service provider B) piracy being a civil offense to begin with. They had a strike team and everything to grab him.

The good part is hes filthy rich and probably more than able to contest the charges legally speaking. The bad part is hes filthy rich and they'd be probably playing on that to the jury and the press.

He was rich.  Last I heard all his assetts are frozen besides his personal credit cards, and he may have maxed them out or close to it. 
True, but he has enough assets to make it well worth the while to defend him(and thus, free his assets) in the promise of future repayment. From all reports hes rich enough to deform economies if he wanted.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2012, 09:30:57 AM »
Heads up regarding a treaty that does much the same stuff as SOPA.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/23/if-you-thought-sopa-was-bad-just-wait-until-you-meet-acta/

Just wanted to see if you all knew of it.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2012, 10:31:55 AM »
I did not.  That said, seeing that it wasn't signed by Congress, I'm not excessively worried about it.  The President very obviously doesn't have the authority to sign this agreement without a vote by Congress, and it disgusts me that he is attempting to do so, anyway.  It is such an obviously unconstitutional act.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2012, 10:33:02 AM »
http://stopsopaireland.com/
Oh hey, they're drawing up a law here which lets you get an injunction against anyone whose service could theoretically be used to commit piracy, without letting them know you're doing so.

Tomorrow.
Also, it's being passed without a vote.
EDIT: Looks like because of the petition there's going to be a debate about it now.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2012, 10:45:44 AM »
It seems the stealth clause is the next wave. If it won't survive public notice, don't let it reach public notice until it is law.
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
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Re: Wikipedia's SOPA box
« Reply #59 on: January 25, 2012, 01:39:02 PM »
On the bright side, at least this time I can feel like I'm doing something. I mailed all the Austrian EU representatives today. Even the right-extremists.
I might have misleadingly implied that I vote for them and threatened to change that should ACTA be voted for.

EDIT: I actually got back one mail so far, from the conservative-populist representative, stating he'd vote against. Useful idiot, score one.
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