Fun finds thread V3.0

[ariasderros]

Oh no, that's not the worst RAI reading I've ever seen. Stick around, I'm sure we'll get one worse in a month or two.

Not only do I agree with SorO here, I think that is incredibly optimistic for the time frame.

I've got two blue chips on 3 weeks. Any takers?

[Karlton]

Inspired by this thread, I set out to create a ninja/wu-jen, but when I checked DragMag#357 page 86, all I could find was a feat that stacked ninja and shugenja levels for ki.

Bummer.

[Garryl]

Snowsong is a 6th-level bard spell with a bunch of nice effects and a long-ish duration. The debuff is rather tame and the other effects are all available in other spells of lower level, but usually as single-target effects and not for as long a duration. Good for Archivists (via Divine Bard) and Chameleons who want a replacement for DMM Mass Lesser Vigor.

[Bananaphone]

Dragon #325, page 61 has an interesting feat.

Diversified Casting [General]
You can cast spells from one of your prohibited schools.
Prerequisites: A prohibited school.
Benefit: Choose a prohibited school. You may add up to three spells from that school to your spell list.  Note that this also allows you to use spell-completion and spell-trigger items using the spells you add to your spell list.
Special: You can gain this feat a number of times equal to the number of prohibited schools you possess.  Each time you take this feat, it applies to a different prohibited school.

There is the obvious benefit of accessing 3 spells from a prohibited school, but it seems that it would also allow you to access spells from any spell list provided it is from that school.


Seems that my conjurer can pick up Wings of Cover and Wings of Flurry now quite easily.   

[ksbsnowowl]

Dragon #325, page 61 has an interesting feat.

Diversified Casting [General]
You can cast spells from one of your prohibited schools.
Prerequisites: A prohibited school.
Benefit: Choose a prohibited school. You may add up to three spells from that school to your spell list.  Note that this also allows you to use spell-completion and spell-trigger items using the spells you add to your spell list.
Special: You can gain this feat a number of times equal to the number of prohibited schools you possess.  Each time you take this feat, it applies to a different prohibited school.

There is the obvious benefit of accessing 3 spells from a prohibited school, but it seems that it would also allow you to access spells from any spell list provided it is from that school.


Seems that my conjurer can pick up Wings of Cover and Wings of Flurry now quite easily.   

fyi, don't expect any DM with access to Lost Emipres of Faerun to allow that feat, as the bolded part alone is the equivalent of taking the Spell Reprieve feat three times.

[brujon]

I wouldn't allow this spell in any of my games. Specializing is meant to be a trade-off, and there's no trade-off if you can ban a school that only has 3 really useful spells and then get em all back with a single feat.

[SolEiji]

I wouldn't allow this spell in any of my games. Specializing is meant to be a trade-off, and there's no trade-off if you can ban a school that only has 3 really useful spells and then get em all back with a single feat.

Spell?  Did you mean feat?

The trade off is the loss of a precious feat slot.  Up to you if it's "worth it" or "too good".

[Cagemarrow]

Well after much searching I found a Bag of Holding type item that can be made in E6. The Dragonskin Bag of Grendel is from Dragon 329 pg 26 and allows a character to fill the bag with up to 1500 lbs while only weighing 8 lbs itself. It uses shrink item as the base spell so items are reduced in size and weight and not actually stored in an extra dimensional space. 18k is pretty expensive, especially with the clause that a successful dispel check on it causes the contents to return to normal size and destroy the bag but based on the guidelines for a continuous use magic item of "Shrink Item" it only costs 3 grand extra. Although the spell item version would allow you to carry much more weight with the cloth like item version since it reduces item size by 16 and weight by 4000 times. So you could carry 4000 lbs for every 1 lbs of material in the bag with the spell version.

When making your own with proper engineering I think it could be made to open and dump out the contents rather than ripping itself apart. I picture it as a canvas sheet that items are placed on then it gets folded up into a bag/backpack form with wooden buckles to hold it shut. If it gets dispelled the items would expand and cause the buckles to break before the bag itself, spilling the contents out over the ground. The buckles would have to be replaced before it could be used as a bag again, but it would allow for the bag to be repaired and used again after the encounter is finished.

[Bananaphone]

Dragon #325, page 61 has an interesting feat.

Diversified Casting [General]
You can cast spells from one of your prohibited schools.
Prerequisites: A prohibited school.
Benefit: Choose a prohibited school. You may add up to three spells from that school to your spell list.  Note that this also allows you to use spell-completion and spell-trigger items using the spells you add to your spell list.
Special: You can gain this feat a number of times equal to the number of prohibited schools you possess.  Each time you take this feat, it applies to a different prohibited school.

There is the obvious benefit of accessing 3 spells from a prohibited school, but it seems that it would also allow you to access spells from any spell list provided it is from that school.


Seems that my conjurer can pick up Wings of Cover and Wings of Flurry now quite easily.   

fyi, don't expect any DM with access to Lost Emipres of Faerun to allow that feat, as the bolded part alone is the equivalent of taking the Spell Reprieve feat three times.

I would agree about not expecting a DM to grant access with LEoF available, but I disagree about taking Spell Reprieve 3 times as being equal.  Between the two feats, the wording is different.  Diversified Casting specifically says to add prohibited spells to your spell list.  Spell Reprieve does not mention adding spells to your list.  Also, if one wanted access to an entire school again they would get Spell Reprieve, Item Reprieve, and Arcane Transfiguration, which is better than Spell Reprieve x 3.

I wouldn't allow this spell in any of my games. Specializing is meant to be a trade-off, and there's no trade-off if you can ban a school that only has 3 really useful spells and then get em all back with a single feat.

The trade-off is your feat slot.  With all the spells that are available via the SC and supplements, there are definitely more than 3 useful spells in any school.  It's just a matter of what you value the most to pick.



I thought the feat notable because of the wording of adding to "your spell list".  Recaster and Wyrm Wizard can do it, but they have restrictions, or require too much investment. 
Yes, a DM can disallow it... as he can anything.  Shouldn't that go without saying?  *shrug*

[brujon]

I wouldn't allow this spell in any of my games. Specializing is meant to be a trade-off, and there's no trade-off if you can ban a school that only has 3 really useful spells and then get em all back with a single feat.

Spell?  Did you mean feat?

The trade off is the loss of a precious feat slot.  Up to you if it's "worth it" or "too good".

yes, i meant feat... Silly me. I think it's too good. Wizards are already T1, they don't need any extra boost, and prohibited schools are a balancing point, not meant to be sidestepped.

[zook1shoe]

How would the drow wizard specialist work w this?

does he choose a prohibited spell type?

edit: seems like Chain Spell can apply to potions. Just throw it on a permanent spell and one potion affects 1+CL targets.
To get higher spell levels in a potion, use the Magic of Faerun's Master Alchemist for up to 9th level spells. These then chain to 17-18 extra targets. A 9th level potion costs 7650gp.

[Maat Mons]

An embedded holy symbol (Dragon 359, p117) makes it impossible for a cleric to be without a divine focus.  It costs 100 gp for the symbol, and implanting it requires a DC 15 heal check and magically healing the resulting damage.  None of that should be a problem for a cleric. 

Combat mod, from earlier in the same article, appears to allow you to get hand crossbows built into your wrists, which should leave your hands free to reload them. 

[sirpercival]

Hey, you want to heal your allies without wasting precious actions on it?

Be a Warlock and go into Eldritch Disciple, selecting Healing Blast.  You can be a Hellfire Warlock, hey why not.  Make sure you have the Eldritch Glaive blast shape.  Now, if anyone on your team needs healing, simply declare them your enemy and have them walk through your threatened area, provoking a Healing AoO.

[Sinfire Titan]

So, found a few nifty magic items while I was perusing my books yesterday.

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5,000gp, part of a meh magic item set. +10ft Enhancement bonus to base land speed, and the wearer can use the least version of Celerity (Immediate action for a Move action, dazes you for one round).

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I dunno how I missed these when I made the Dragonmark handbook, but these (fairly expensive) rods remove one of the major limitations on Dragonmarks: Spell selection. While the character's actual Dragonmark is still set in stone, the Rod can duplicate the effects of any of your Dragonmark's options several times per day (1/day for Greater, 2/day for Lesser, 3/day for Least, uses are cumulative). So someone with the Greater (or Siberys) Mark of Making could use EVERY single SLA associated with the Least, Lesser, and Greater Mark of Making. By expensive, the most expensive of these rods is 60K while the cheapest is 30K, and each price is for a specific rod tied to a specific Dragonmark (a rod for the Mark of Scribing costs 30K, and one for the Mark of Making costs 45K).

Unfortunately, there isn't one for Aberrant marks.

And then there's this:

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SPELL ENGINE
Abjuration [Force]
Level: Wizard 8
Components: V, S, M, XP
Casting Time: 10 minutes
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Effect: 5-ft.-radius magical wheel
Duration: See text
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: Yes; see text

You speak a word of abjuration and thrust aloft the bone disk and silver wheel, held together by a single tear. The disk and wheel begin to spin, then vanish, but you feel the power of the mystic engine created nearby.

Upon casting this spell, you can swap out any or all of your prepared spells for other spells from your spellbook. Each prepared spell must be swapped for a spell of the same level. Empty spell slots from a spell cast earlier in the day (including the casting of this spell) cannot be refreshed.

Preparing spells within the light provided by a spell engine takes only half as long as normal.

Material Components: A disk of polished bone, one of your tears, and a silver wheel worth 500 gp.

XP Cost: 250 XP.

So for 40 minutes of downtime you can completely exchange what spells you have prepared. Thanks WotC, for making the Sorcerer even more of the Wizard's bitch.

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Unfortunately, there isn't one for Aberrant marks.[/spoiler]
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I seem to remember a Dragon magazine issue that said there were aberrant versions of all the dragonmark items...

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

[brujon]

One spell that makes an entire class obsolete... wow...

[Bananaphone]

So, found a few nifty magic items while I was perusing my books yesterday.
And then there's this:

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SPELL ENGINE
Abjuration [Force]
Level: Wizard 8
Components: V, S, M, XP
Casting Time: 10 minutes
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Effect: 5-ft.-radius magical wheel
Duration: See text
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: Yes; see text

You speak a word of abjuration and thrust aloft the bone disk and silver wheel, held together by a single tear. The disk and wheel begin to spin, then vanish, but you feel the power of the mystic engine created nearby.

Upon casting this spell, you can swap out any or all of your prepared spells for other spells from your spellbook. Each prepared spell must be swapped for a spell of the same level. Empty spell slots from a spell cast earlier in the day (including the casting of this spell) cannot be refreshed.

Preparing spells within the light provided by a spell engine takes only half as long as normal.

Material Components: A disk of polished bone, one of your tears, and a silver wheel worth 500 gp.

XP Cost: 250 XP.

So for 40 minutes of downtime you can completely exchange what spells you have prepared. Thanks WotC, for making the Sorcerer even more of the Wizard's bitch.

I've got to be missing something.  Wouldn't Uncanny Forethought be better?

[SorO_Lost]

Use them all.

It's actually so bad Sorcerer-like (dragonspawn & TD aging) is superior to the actual Sorcerer Class.
But the product is sold Wizards of the Coast...

[Sinfire Titan]

So, found a few nifty magic items while I was perusing my books yesterday.
And then there's this:

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SPELL ENGINE
Abjuration [Force]
Level: Wizard 8
Components: V, S, M, XP
Casting Time: 10 minutes
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Effect: 5-ft.-radius magical wheel
Duration: See text
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: Yes; see text

You speak a word of abjuration and thrust aloft the bone disk and silver wheel, held together by a single tear. The disk and wheel begin to spin, then vanish, but you feel the power of the mystic engine created nearby.

Upon casting this spell, you can swap out any or all of your prepared spells for other spells from your spellbook. Each prepared spell must be swapped for a spell of the same level. Empty spell slots from a spell cast earlier in the day (including the casting of this spell) cannot be refreshed.

Preparing spells within the light provided by a spell engine takes only half as long as normal.

Material Components: A disk of polished bone, one of your tears, and a silver wheel worth 500 gp.

XP Cost: 250 XP.

So for 40 minutes of downtime you can completely exchange what spells you have prepared. Thanks WotC, for making the Sorcerer even more of the Wizard's bitch.

I've got to be missing something.  Wouldn't Uncanny Forethought be better?

Yeah, but this gets every spell on your list. And you can Uncanny Forethought it!

[SorO_Lost]

Fun find, the Sage's identity.

Sort of like the FAQ it never sat well with me that Customer Service's answers were kicked out. Oh don't get me wrong I can understand why. Some poster in the middle of a hot debate says his 1 in 5,000 email was answered the day of being sent supports his exact view of total bullshit? Seems legit to me. Totally. But the disregard is carried over to Sage Online, an article that indisputably happened, and I've seen it referenced that because the FAQ has been answered by "the Sage" then fallacy of association dictates both are piles of skunk manure.

Well, "The Sage" as of at least the Sage Online article's starting point until at least 4th Edition (since he worked on the PHB) was none other than Andy Collins. He worked on both planar books (MotP/PlH), both item books (A&E/MiC), a couple completes (CAd/CD/CW), some misc ones (Draco, MMIII, FF, FR:MoF), in fact without him who knows. We may not have had Flaws (UA), Shadowcraft Mages (RoS) or Necropolitons (LM). At the very least the guy has back ground credit for making screwed up rulebooks.

Goes to show, that nameless entity you dislike may have been the same guy you've loved all these years.