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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #480 on: February 09, 2013, 10:07:58 PM »
The Proteus feat from Exemplars of Evil requires Caster level 10th and Spell Focus (illusion) but allows you to sacrifice a prepared spell to cast any lower-level illusion (glamer) spell. In addition, you can cast a prepared illusion (glamer) spell as an immediate action by sacrificing another spell of the same level.

This strikes me as a potentially usefull feat in an unspecific way. Just throwing it out here in case it triggers any ideas.

Also, the feat Evil Blessing allows you to  (as a standard action) gain a Profane bonus to your Saves equal to your Cha score for 5 rounds. If you damage an enemy with a Good subtype or aura, the bonus is doubled.  :drool
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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #481 on: February 10, 2013, 01:42:52 AM »
But it looks like you need to be an 8th level Barbarian from what you posted. Darn.
Don't forget about that capstone feat that lets you qualify for stuff that requires up to a +8 BAB ...  :cool
(it's in the core e6 material)

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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #482 on: February 10, 2013, 04:58:32 AM »
But it's a PrC!

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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #483 on: February 10, 2013, 04:59:33 AM »
But it looks like you need to be an 8th level Barbarian from what you posted. Darn.
Don't forget about that capstone feat that lets you qualify for stuff that requires up to a +8 BAB ...  :cool
(it's in the core e6 material)

But you can only use the capstone feat to qualify for more feats, since after level 6 you can't add more classes. Unless i understood it wrong, which i may have, because i've never actually played E6.

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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #484 on: February 10, 2013, 05:12:52 AM »
 :facepalm
I often forget that most don't play e6 the way my group does -- we use Generic Classes from UA, and have adapted pretty-much any/every level-appropriate class feature in to a feat (meaning that PrC abilities are still available).

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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #485 on: February 10, 2013, 05:28:32 AM »
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I often forget that most don't play e6 the way my group does -- we use Generic Classes from UA, and have adapted pretty-much any/every level-appropriate class feature in to a feat (meaning that PrC abilities are still available).

Ugh... Hope your group has sensible optimizers... But how do you work out the prereqs for class features?
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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #486 on: February 10, 2013, 06:13:31 AM »
Ugh... Hope your group has sensible optimizers...
My current group prefers the likes of "Tim", sneaky pick-pockets, and "Thog smash" ... sometimes the try some silly parlor tricks, but mainly need their items to do the heavy lifting.

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But how do you work out the prereqs for class features?
You mean for PrCs?  That's simple -- whatever the prereqs for the PrC are, that's the minimum prereqs for getting any of the class features; and not necessarily all of the features are available -- that's more of a case-by-case basis(for example, you can have any/all of the options from Exotic Wpn Master; but Greater Frenzy is probably not even a consideration).

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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #487 on: February 10, 2013, 04:00:11 PM »
I now want to play E6+PrCs as a Barbarian 1/Feral Rager 1/Whatever else 4. It sounds rather fun.
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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #488 on: February 11, 2013, 12:46:21 AM »
From athas.org the Fearsome, Freedom, and Intimidating Presence feats are amazing!

Fearsome gives a +2 untyped bonus to Intimidate and replaces Cya with Str on Intimate checks. Add Dread Tyranny to get double your Str on Intimidate checks!

Intimidating Presence allows you to demoralize a number of foes equal to your Cha modifier.

Freedom allows to to take an extra move or standard action per round, a number of times per day based on level (between 1 and 4/day)
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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #489 on: February 11, 2013, 01:55:14 AM »
Freedom allows to to take an extra move or standard action per round, a number of times per day based on level (between 1 and 4/day)
The Heroic Surge feat from <some Dragonlance book> does the same thing, as well.

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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #490 on: February 11, 2013, 11:51:49 AM »
Something we're doing in my game atm, I'm playing an evil character with binder levels and I usually have Naberius bound (evil social campaign) using Insane Defiance [Take 1 Wisdom damage to deflect mind-affecting spell or ability to new target with a -4 to the new target's save] to throw out mind effecting spells with essentially +4 to their DC by;

Have an ally cast a spell on me, take 1 wis damage and redirect to target enemy. Enemy now has to make the save at a -4. On my turn allow Naberius to heal the 1 wis damage.

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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #491 on: February 11, 2013, 11:53:38 AM »
Something we're doing in my game atm, I'm playing an evil character with binder levels and I usually have Naberius bound (evil social campaign) using Insane Defiance [Take 1 Wisdom damage to deflect mind-affecting spell or ability to new target with a -4 to the new target's save] to throw out mind effecting spells with essentially +4 to their DC by;

Have an ally cast a spell on me, take 1 wis damage and redirect to target enemy. Enemy now has to make the save at a -4. On my turn allow Naberius to heal the 1 wis damage.
Yeah, I was in a game where we had a couple of PCs that did that exact same thing.
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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #492 on: February 11, 2013, 11:57:05 AM »
Freedom allows to to take an extra move or standard action per round, a number of times per day based on level (between 1 and 4/day)
The Heroic Surge feat from <some Dragonlance book> does the same thing, as well.
That feat is also in the Wheel of Time d20 RPG, FYI.

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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #493 on: February 11, 2013, 12:02:16 PM »
One thing about Insane Defiance...

Can you bounce it? So you get 20 commoners with the feat to stand nearby, cast charm person on them, and the penalty on the guy's save against it stack (so the DC is effective +80)?

Or am I being entirely, utterly silly?
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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #494 on: February 11, 2013, 12:05:00 PM »
One thing about Insane Defiance...

Can you bounce it? So you get 20 commoners with the feat to stand nearby, cast charm person on them, and the penalty on the guy's save against it stack (so the DC is effective +80)?

Or am I being entirely, utterly silly?
You can't, specifically because it's at a penalty. The first person you bounce it to takes a -4 penalty and bounces it on, imposing a -4 save penalty to the next person... who doesn't care one whit what the first one's save bonus looked like.
If it was a bonus to the DC instead, it might stack barring a clause to the contrary (depending on your interpretation of "same source"), which is presumably why it isn't.
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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #495 on: February 11, 2013, 12:37:38 PM »
Alright, just checking.
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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #496 on: February 11, 2013, 06:29:21 PM »
You have to wait till epic levels (or red wizard) if you want those 100 Followers to boost your spells. :p

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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #497 on: February 12, 2013, 07:31:38 PM »
The Proteus feat from Exemplars of Evil requires Caster level 10th and Spell Focus (illusion) but allows you to sacrifice a prepared spell to cast any lower-level illusion (glamer) spell. In addition, you can cast a prepared illusion (glamer) spell as an immediate action by sacrificing another spell of the same level.

This strikes me as a potentially usefull feat in an unspecific way. Just throwing it out here in case it triggers any ideas.
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Also, the feat Evil Blessing allows you to  (as a standard action) gain a Profane bonus to your Saves equal to your Cha score for 5 rounds. If you damage an enemy with a Good subtype or aura, the bonus is doubled.  :drool

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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #498 on: February 16, 2013, 07:05:33 PM »
From athas.org the Fearsome, Freedom, and Intimidating Presence feats are amazing!

Fearsome gives a +2 untyped bonus to Intimidate and replaces Cya with Str on Intimate checks. Add Dread Tyranny to get double your Str on Intimidate checks!

Intimidating Presence allows you to demoralize a number of foes equal to your Cha modifier.

Freedom allows to to take an extra move or standard action per round, a number of times per day based on level (between 1 and 4/day)

glad you re-found those. i've mentioned the first two from a while back... intimidation and fear threads mostly, iirc. the last is a regional city-specific feat, but not too hard to relocate, i'm thinking.

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Re: Fun finds thread V3.0
« Reply #499 on: February 16, 2013, 07:58:08 PM »
Really? Missed that  :o
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